Comments Thread For: Mayweather Had Canelo Level Power, Says Shane Mosley

[djtmal]

Why arent you holding it against Odh, shane and Manny for refusing to fight him is what I asked?

It's like every Floyd critic who followed this stuff in real time has told you time and again man. It's really a waste of time laying it out to you, because you don't have 68,000 plus posts of Floyd excuses for nothing.

Oscar aside, those were Floyds fights to make.

Floyd if the risk is too high he isn't making the fights.

It's no coincidence that he didn't fight Mosley and Manny sooner rather than later. All you had to do was follow his pattern for making fights as the a side, even prior to that, and again, there were more guys than just Mosley and Manny who were trying to get at him. Margarito and Khan were literally stalking him.

As far as his critics are concerned if it was easy to make total waste of time fights with Guerrero Ortiz Madonna 2x and Berto, then you can make the fights with guys who can throw a good one two, but that seems to be lost on you..

[The Big Dunn]

floyd did not land more clean punches than pac. we can go through it round by round if you would like. floyds jab was not landing cleanly. why do you keep saying that? you are the one making up that narrative. it was coming up short or at best lightly grazing pac and not making any impact aka not clean. do you know what a clean punch is? its what pac did to floyd rocking his head around. floyd was blocking pacs punches yet pac wasnt blcoking floyds? come on mr biased. one guys head was rocking around. it was floyd not pacs. why do you think sticking your glove out lightly at someone is a clean punch? yet you come on here saying i have no integrity? no one with any integrity would ever think lightly pushing your opponent away in a non punch motion is a clean punch. come on. the clean punches were landed by pac not floyd. just because you dont like pac doesnt mean that didnt happen and there is nothing you can ever do or say to change that fact. yes fact because we have the film of the fight. and pacs jab was much cleaner than floyds during the fight which is the only thing you have to hang your hat on since floyd had almost no power shots which you admit, but even floyds jab was utter sh-it. pacs jab was hard and rocked floyds head around. floyd got in a good jab every now and then of course, but pac had better jabs and better power shots to floyds head, oh and pac had much better body shots. its just silly to pretend floyds little tiny air jabs and grazing tickles are clean punches. you have no integrity and its clear you are such a fanboy because you literally defend every single thing floyd does. i dont hate floyd, hes just overrated. you literally cant say a bad word about him. i can and do say bad things about pac, ggg, etc...they arent the greatest. they fought bad fights, should have fought certain guys, etc...you on the other hand think floyds career was amazing and nothing was his fault, he dominated everyone, blah blah insane cult behavior

Somehow you saw a different fight than anyone else. Your bias is clear. You lack any integrity.

Manny lost clearly and cleanly. The thread is about Shane saying Floyd has more power than you realize. That means the jabs you suggest were so weak were more powerful than you will admit because its Floyd.

Instead, you create some agenda driven analysis claiming punches were soft and had no impact. Funny but the first round shot Manny took seems to change his while plan.

I have never posted anything of the sort about Floyd’s career. I asked a simple question which you haven’t answered-

when guys wait to fight Floyd, why is that held against him?

[The Big Dunn]

It's like every Floyd critic who followed this stuff in real time has told you time and again man. It's really a waste of time laying it out to you, because you don't have 68,000 plus posts of Floyd excuses for nothing.

Oscar aside, those were Floyds fights to make.

Floyd if the risk is too high he isn't making the fights.

It's no coincidence that he didn't fight Mosley and Manny sooner rather than later. All you had to do was follow his pattern for making fights as the a side, and again, there were more guys than just Mosley and Manny who were trying to get at him. Margarito and Khan were literally stalking him.

As far as his critics are concerned if it was easy to make total waste of time fights with Guerrero Ortiz Madonna 2x and Berto, then you can make the fights with guys who can throw a good one two, but that seems to be lost on you..

You mean I am correcting the lies and omissions from people like you.

Shane and Manny avoided him as well. They waited and they lost and you haven’t gotten over it.

All Shane had to do was tell Merchant he will fight Floyd. Instead he talked about a dentist. Manny talked about needle fear, cutoffs and unfair ppv splits. Oh yeah, the timing of the elective stitches he (and you) doesn’t mention much.

Guerrero and Ortiz are the equivalent of Horn and Clottey. Maidana is Rios. Berto was the equivalent of Algieri.

Margs and Kahn are the equivalent of Zahir Raheem and Judah- guys that he just didnt fight.

Baldomir would be David Diaz.

[djtmal]

He was offered this as cover once he made the decade to buy out his TR contract because Bob kept telling him he couldn’t make the ODH fight.

I don't care how it was served up. It was offered and he backed away from it.

[djtmal]

when Floyd calls someone out and they dont fight him, you hold it against Floyd.


That is the distinction I don’t understand/

Floyd called out Winky Wright. Much respect.

But at the last minute Floyd changed the terms and Floyd backed out of the fight.

Is that Winky Wrights fault as well

[The Big Dunn]

I don't care how it was served up. It was offered and he backed away from it.

Got it. You wanted him to fight Margs after he used his own money what to get the fight with the cash cow he begged for that Bob wouldnt make.

Ok.

[djtmal]

You mean I am correcting the lies and omissions from people like you.

Shane and Manny avoided him as well. They waited and they lost and you haven’t gotten over it.

All Shane had to do was tell Merchant he will fight Floyd. Instead he talked about a dentist. Manny talked about needle fear, cutoffs and unfair ppv splits. Oh yeah, the timing of the elective stitches he (and you) doesn’t mention much.

Guerrero and Ortiz are the equivalent of Horn and Clottey. Maidana is Rios. Berto was the equivalent of Algieri.

Margs and Kahn are the equivalent of Zahir Raheem and Judah- guys that he just didnt fight.

Baldomir would be David Diaz.

News flash I didn't make any predictions regarding any Floyd fight so you are lying there.

You can't take that nobody gives Floyd much credit for beating shopworn fighters like Manny and Shane, and pinning the blame on those guys because you think they are to blame isn't going to make it better. Brian Kenny actually asked Floyd why Marquez instead of Mosley and Floyds excuse was Mosley wasn't a ppv attraction. Which was bs Mosley had headlined with Oscar 2x. Mosley got in Floyds face at the Marquez fight and it still was a year later that they fought. Mosley was 38 by then and visibly shopworn.

Larry Merchant shoved that same mic in Floyds face after Hatton and asked him about Cotto, Williams, etc and Floyd said i am retiring, we just didn't know at the time he was going on a two year vacation to duck all of them. Came back to cherrypick a lightweight.

If Floyd would have just fought these guys in their prime, you wouldn't have to be so sensitive.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd called out Winky Wright. Much respect.

But at the last minute Floyd changed the terms and Floyd backed out of the fight.

Is that Winky Wrights fault as well

Ok. It happens with cash cows.

Not winky’s fault at all. I don’t ever recall saying it was.

[djtmal]

Got it. You wanted him to fight Margs after he used his own money what to get the fight with the cash cow he begged for that Bob wouldnt make.

Ok.

That's some spin the bottle bs you are on

[The Big Dunn]

News flash I didn't make any predictions regarding any Floyd fight so you are lying there.

You can't take that nobody gives Floyd much credit for beating shopworn fighters like Manny and Shane, and pinning the blame on those guys because you think they are to blame isn't going to make it better. Brian Kenny actually asked Floyd why Marquez instead of Mosley and Floyds excuse was Mosley wasn't a ppv attraction.

Larry Merchant shoved that same mic in Floyds face after Hatton and asked him about Cotto, Williams, etc and Floyd said i am retiring, we just didn't know at the time he was going on a two year vacation to duck all of them. Came back to cherrypick a lightweight.

If Floyd would have just fought these guys in their prime, you wouldn't have to be so sensitive.

Sure you didnt.

I dont care what credit losers like you give. I asked someone else a specific question about holding it against Floyd that shane, Manny and Odh all waited to fight him.

You went off on some tangent ad you always do, avoiding the actual question asked.

Yes it was. He clearly was dissing shane the same way Shane dissed him when avoiding him.

Yes he did. Said his hands were hurt. Came back to easily defeat the guy who was beating and drawing with the boxer people like you said would beat him.

So he made a point by beating JMM that Manny couldnt beat decisively to that point.

If they wouldve fought Floyd when they were prime, youd still be making excuses why they lost.

Youd also still fixate on guys Floyd didn’t fight because that is the only way to denigrate his career since he beat the guys you said he wouldn’t.

Youre bitterness is never going away. Lol.