Comments Thread For: Crawford Changes His Stance, Willing To Fight Canelo at 168 Pounds

[Monty Fisto]

WBC blocking Bivol vs Beterbiev is robbing us of Crawford vs the winner as an option as well.

(joke)

[satiev1]

Boots is by far the biggest threat - Age, speed. Skill is what we don't know. Is Crawford more SKILLED than Boots? Because he's not faster. I consider it a 50/50 fight, frankly.

The only reason people are cheering this crap is because they saw Canelo recently look like crap, they're Crawford fans who want to see him get a win over a declining Canelo, and they'll make excuses for why it's a great win despite Canelo clearly declining.

I'm not directly a Boots fan. I recognize his skill. He's quality. But I need to see more. He's a mandatory. I support guys fighting their mandatory UNLESS they choose to fight other threats in their current weight class.

Boots has more fans than people think. Him and Subriel Matias have strong support online. Boots can't sell with his mouth, but the footage sells the fight. Especially if you sell the narrative that these are both guys who aren't afraid to slug it out. And remember, Joshua recently was not PPV, which means they could do Crawford vs. Boots outside of PPV and make it work.

Go rob BLK Prime again (Crawford's second PBC fight in his 2-fight deal would have to be the Spence rematch unless Spence decides not to). They'll do it.

I mean at this point, if Crawford isn't going to fight any mandatory, fight F'n Broner at 147. That's a gimme. But if he manages to do what no other fighter has done and stop Broner, it's a story to tell.

50/50? LMAO. On paper he's good but you don't know that for sure if he'll be his toughest fight. If bud destroys boots he'll get zero credit for it. Let boots unify 147 after bud moves up to 154 and then do a super fight with bud.

[Madison Boxing]

The way Canelo’s been moving I wouldn’t be surprised if he decides to fight Crawford over Benavidez. Crawford is a better fighter than Benavidez but he’s just now about to move up to 154 whereas Benavidez is a full fledged Super Middleweight with the mandatory right to face Canelo. If the Canelo vs. Crawford even becomes a reality it would be for one reason… Either Canelo is chasing a big money fight against a guy with tons of momentum in Crawford OR he’s outright ducking Benavidez. There’s no in between in my opinion. Not saying Crawford can’t be competitive at 168 but what are the reasons Canelo would opt to fight a 147 pounder over his mandatory who is a natural 168 pounder?

canelo has lost to elite welterweights before he would lose again, hes got a bit more meat on the bone these days but if anything he is worse than what he was when he fought mayweather, this isnt some mikey garcia v spence type situation youve got a smaller guy in crawford who is a hell of a lot better than the bigger guy, in my head i just see canelo plodding and missing

[elfag]

If crawford takes next fight at 168 it would be the first 3 weight class jump that I can even think of. Pac was the closest going from 130 to 147 in the same calendar year with a stop at 135 but even then there is the asterisk that Oscar hadnt fought at 147 in a decade and was a walking corpse.

You have to go all the way back to henry armstrong going 126 to 147 as far as I know for what would have been a 4 weight class jump today and that was like 90 years ago. Then if you look at the actual numbers without them dehydrating back then, his opponent was only 10 pounds heavier which is routine today.. opponent was 142 lbs and he was low 130s.

Its never been done in recent times because its very hard. Crawford is still high off his win where spence was a blow out, supposed to be easy but lets look at it, spence had zero defense, crawford hit him at will. Crawford will not hit Canelo at will, canelo despite having slipped a lot, still has great defense and is very hard to hit. Biviol has a huge reach and better speed than crawford. Crawford doesnt have the speed neccisary to land on canelo routinely. It would be a very hard fight for him. Charlo is a lot more wreckless and a lot more open, crawford could get through on him.

[TintaBoricua]

If crawford takes next fight at 168 it would be the first 3 weight class jump that I can even think of. Pac was the closest going from 130 to 147 in the same calendar year with a stop at 135 but even then there is the asterisk that Oscar hadnt fought at 147 in a decade and was a walking corpse.

You have to go all the way back to henry armstrong going 126 to 147 as far as I know for what would have been a 4 weight class jump today and that was like 90 years ago. Then if you look at the actual numbers without them dehydrating back then, his opponent was only 10 pounds heavier which is routine today.. opponent was 142 lbs and he was low 130s.

Its never been done in recent times because its very hard. Crawford is still high off his win where spence was a blow out, supposed to be easy but lets look at it, spence had zero defense, crawford hit him at will. Crawford will not hit Canelo at will, canelo despite having slipped a lot, still has great defense and is very hard to hit. Biviol has a huge reach and better speed than crawford. Crawford doesnt have the speed neccisary to land on canelo routinely. It would be a very hard fight for him. Charlo is a lot more wreckless and a lot more open, crawford could get through on him.

I’m ashamedly excited for the potential of that fight, but realistically, I think that’s where Crawford bites off more than he can chew. Canelo is a sturdy 168 at this point with counterpunching skills to boot. Hell, Bivol won that fight 11-1 to 9-3 and the judges still somehow had it 7-5 (while scoring the first four rounds Canelo). It would be a very uphill battle for Crawford, never mind having to win them convincingly. Otherwise, it’s gonna’ be one of those “win 10 to get 7 rounds” affairs.

[Madison Boxing]

If crawford takes next fight at 168 it would be the first 3 weight class jump that I can even think of. Pac was the closest going from 130 to 147 in the same calendar year with a stop at 135 but even then there is the asterisk that Oscar hadnt fought at 147 in a decade and was a walking corpse.

You have to go all the way back to henry armstrong going 126 to 147 as far as I know for what would have been a 4 weight class jump today and that was like 90 years ago. Then if you look at the actual numbers without them dehydrating back then, his opponent was only 10 pounds heavier which is routine today.. opponent was 142 lbs and he was low 130s.

Its never been done in recent times because its very hard. Crawford is still high off his win where spence was a blow out, supposed to be easy but lets look at it, spence had zero defense, crawford hit him at will. Crawford will not hit Canelo at will, canelo despite having slipped a lot, still has great defense and is very hard to hit. Biviol has a huge reach and better speed than crawford. Crawford doesnt have the speed neccisary to land on canelo routinely. It would be a very hard fight for him. Charlo is a lot more wreckless and a lot more open, crawford could get through on him.

no he isnt, a past prime mayweather was doing just that, hitting him at will and so was bivol. canelo has great defense against big slow plodding euro stiffs or old past prime fighters, not against elite prime boxers.

[Smash]

if canelo takes care of charlo in pretty good fashion, a fight with bud would be very interesting indeed

[Combat Talk Radio]

They tried to "rob" BLK Prime with Boots and they needed BLK to speak with Showtime, because they were loyal. Boots is NOT mandatory until it is ordered. Crawford said before the fight that he was going up to 154 after this fight. He said in the interview that he wanted to go for undisputed vs Jermell, but he will be stripped (WBO) once he fights Canelo. He made it sound as if this is the only fight he wants before he retires. All of the young guns are "threats", but even before his performance vs Spence, I would only give Boots a punchers chance. Yes he is fast, seemingly hard hitting, very talented. I just don't think he has the skills or tools to beat Crawford.

Maybe he doesn't, but he deserves the chance. He's a mandatory. He's been mandatory for over a year.

[Combat Talk Radio]

50/50? LMAO. On paper he's good but you don't know that for sure if he'll be his toughest fight. If bud destroys boots he'll get zero credit for it. Let boots unify 147 after bud moves up to 154 and then do a super fight with bud.

You're going off of a performance against a 50% Spence.

Boots wasn't in a car wreck.
Boots wasn't and isn't an alcoholic.
Boots didn't go to war with Shawn Porter.
Boots wasn't ejected from a flipping vehicle at high speed.

It's 50/50, because it would be an opponent that's fresh, young and prime vs. one that's talented but nowhere near what he was against Ricky Burns.

Not sure why I and Charlie Zelenoff are the only ones left here that want to see Crawford fight someone that ISN'T fresh off a terrible performance.

[Smash]

Boots wasn't in a car wreck.
Boots wasn't and isn't an alcoholic.
Boots didn't go to war with Shawn Porter.
Boots wasn't ejected from a flipping vehicle at high speed.

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you are forgetting his detached retina lol