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    Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

    No, it's the same thing - hypocrisy around here. And you're one of the worst of them. Because you're ignoring that mandatories are due title shots and champions have an obligation to fight or pay them BEFORE doing whatever in some other weight class, which is why Manny got stripped for trying to fight Cryan. It's the same damn thing.

    You like circus fights, great. Vacate the belts, do all the circus fights you want and let welterweight get back to business.
    Translation: "Please make Bud fight Boots because I believe Boots will stop him and I can finally gloat and be right". Lol.

    Bud has time to decide what he wants to do. The reason every poster here says you are ridiculous is because it is obvious you are just praying for Bud to get beat. Now suddenly you are on crusade to "keep people consistent" on guys fighting their mandatories.

    Bad news. If Bud stays at WW and defends, Stanionois is next.

    I really hope Boots fights Bud at 147 or 154. When Bud knocks him out maybe you will finally grow up.

    But we all know, it isn't that you hate Bud, you really like him, it isn't that he made you look ridiculous with all your Spence hype for months before the fight. Nah, you were always a Bud fan.

    GTFOH.
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    • Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

      You're going off of a performance against a 50% Spence.

      Boots wasn't in a car wreck.
      Boots wasn't and isn't an alcoholic.
      Boots didn't go to war with Shawn Porter.
      Boots wasn't ejected from a flipping vehicle at high speed.

      It's 50/50, because it would be an opponent that's fresh, young and prime vs. one that's talented but nowhere near what he was against Ricky Burns.

      Not sure why I and Charlie Zelenoff are the only ones left here that want to see Crawford fight someone that ISN'T fresh off a terrible performance.
      Boots hasn't gone to war period. You keep saying that he is mandatory in your other comments, but having the number 1 spot/interim belt at a sanctioning body is not automatic mandatory until it is ordered. Lets call him mandatory when he really is, unless you have an agenda. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Boots just because I am a fan of boxing, but I would definitely rather him fight Charlo due to the history or Canelo. I will agree that if he stays at 147 he definitely needs to take care of his mandatories. They are all good fights (minus Rocha IMO).

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      • Originally posted by DeryckAtlanta View Post

        Boots hasn't gone to war period. You keep saying that he is mandatory in your other comments, but having the number 1 spot/interim belt at a sanctioning body is not automatic mandatory until it is ordered. Lets call him mandatory when he really is, unless you have an agenda. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Boots just because I am a fan of boxing, but I would definitely rather him fight Charlo due to the history or Canelo. I will agree that if he stays at 147 he definitely needs to take care of his mandatories. They are all good fights (minus Rocha IMO).
        My "agenda" is that Crawford is calling out fighters in every weight class EXCEPT welterweight.

        Fine.

        Vacate the belts.

        That's all.

        When Canelo was calling out fighters in every other weight class, NSB called for him to vacate.
        When Taylor was ducking Caterall, NSB called for him to vacate.
        When Teofimo (champion) went on the air and basically refused to fight anyone who was a threat and talked about moving up to 140, NSB called for him to vacate.

        And nobody's replied to most notable example: just a few months after beating Keef, Manny started talking about fighting Cryan, and WBA damn near immediately threatened to strip him for not fighting the mandatory and going after a lightweight, then went ahead and stripped him. And that was just TALKING about the fight. This is the same thing! Why were people cool with it when Manny got stripped, but not cool with it for Crawford? It makes no sense.

        Boots is a mandatory, Stankonia is a mandatory. Fine, let them fight for vacant titles if Crawford won't fight them.

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        • crawford vs canelo at 160 is the only fight i am interested in... like the floyd vs pac fight, this will be one of the few fights that i will be happy to pay for the ppv!

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          • Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

            Here we go again - duck the 147 mandatory and chase middleweights
            Where is the logic in your comment.......Duck a man who's built his resume on beating 140lb fighters trying to move up to welterweight to fight the UNDISPUTED champion at 168lbs and is currently the face of boxing?........

            Ignore the fact that the Ennis camp already turned down a fight vs Crawford last year and chose to try and go the IBF route to fight Spence. But you would have to know something about boxing to have that information and not just be a Man Fan.
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            • Originally posted by Silence View Post
              Crawbum wanna some payday, brain damage and death from Canelo's hands.

              Okay, let's go. I wouldn't be happier than that.
              Another ignorant post. You type like you have a little bit of brain damage. Why do you wish that on someone else?

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              • Originally posted by Charlie Zelenoff View Post
                I'm a fan of Crawford but he's getting delusional thinking he can jump three weight classes and beat Nelo. Before the fight with Spence he said he wouldn't challenge Canelo because of the weight difference.

                Post July 29th he's letting the hype get to his head and is considering it. I hope somebody in his team talks him down because he'll be selling himself out for nothing.
                Canelo is 5'8 with a 70.5" reach. Crawford is 5'8" with a 74" reach....Crawford's street weight is north of 170lbs. He also has been said via Hooker, Shakur, Fulton, Stevens, Hurd, etc...that he frequently spars with cruiser and heavyweights. The jump isn't going to be as dramatic as many make it out to be. And this would be IQ vs IQ with Crawford being an underdog for the first time in over a decade with he was a little known up and comer fighting Prescott.

                Sugar Ray Leonard was just 2 inches taller than Crawford with the same reach and he fought as a light heavyweight.

                People are critical of Crawford's resume and saying he's not fighting anyone, but then when he decides to "dare to be great" (the term that became the cliche of choice for Jermell Charlo's jump to fight Canelo) then we are calling him delusional.

                I personally would love to see him fight Tim at 154lbs and then Jermell Charlo for undisputed, but I can't complain about seeing 2 top 5 p4p guys go at it for all of the titles at any division once again. Hopefully there will be a more competitive showing this time around.

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                • Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

                  My "agenda" is that Crawford is calling out fighters in every weight class EXCEPT welterweight.

                  Fine.

                  Vacate the belts.

                  That's all.

                  When Canelo was calling out fighters in every other weight class, NSB called for him to vacate.
                  When Taylor was ducking Caterall, NSB called for him to vacate.
                  When Teofimo (champion) went on the air and basically refused to fight anyone who was a threat and talked about moving up to 140, NSB called for him to vacate.

                  And nobody's replied to most notable example: just a few months after beating Keef, Manny started talking about fighting Cryan, and WBA damn near immediately threatened to strip him for not fighting the mandatory and going after a lightweight, then went ahead and stripped him. And that was just TALKING about the fight. This is the same thing! Why were people cool with it when Manny got stripped, but not cool with it for Crawford? It makes no sense.

                  Boots is a mandatory, Stankonia is a mandatory. Fine, let them fight for vacant titles if Crawford won't fight them.
                  Extremely poor examples. Canelo actually was bouncing around divisions while holding belts in another. I can understand why people would want him to vacate (I wasn't one of them). Many fans thought of the Caterall fight as a robbery, so they wanted him to rematch. Teofimo fought his first mandatory ordered, so not sure where the vacate stuff is coming from. Nobody is calling for these guys to vacate less than a month after they win the titles. It was almost a year after the Thurman fight that Pac was talking Garcia, prior to that it was Conor Mcgregor. He held the belt for 17 months before he fought again. You are comparing these scenarios to a guy that just won the belts, has not been ordered to fight a mandatory yet, and is calling for undisputed champions at 154/168.
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                  • No win situation for Canelo

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                    • Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                      Another ignorant post. You type like you have a little bit of brain damage. Why do you wish that on someone else?
                      Why do you watch two guys punching each other and have a account in a boxing forum if you don't wanna to see brain damage?

                      Lol.

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