Comments Thread For: Conor Benn Prepares For Another Legal Battle, UKAD Appeals Ruling That Cleared Him

[Toffee]

So:

UKAD were testing him but he didn't fail any tests
BBBofC weren't licensing him
He was enrolled in voluntary testing which is what he popped on
WBC were sanctioning the fight? Or at least he's ranked by the WBC.

I'm still where I was when this news broke.

The Board can't do anything. They're irrelevant.
UKAD need to explain why they didn't catch the drugs if he was allegedly juicing.
WBC have already cleared.

Is this just all because he made the Board and UKAD look bad? If UKAD don't catch things then they're worthless. I can't understand them even pursuing this. They seem hell bent on proving their own ineptitude.

[kafkod]

That's not true. Only one of the two tests Benn failed was part of the WBC VADA program. The other was a normal VADA test. I forget which was which.

Whyte was licensed by the BBBofC for the Franklin fight and it was sanctioned by the BBBofC and UKAD. When any fighter competes in a BBBofC sanctioned event, they receive a temporary license.

UKAD banned Eric Molina after he got popped for a banned substance in the aftermath of the Joshua fight. Zolani Tete was just banned for 4 years by UKAD for his positive test with Cunningham last year. These are not UK boxers, but they had temporary licenses for their fights.

Whyte's VADA report is nowhere to be seen because his lawyer threatened to sue Hearn, BBBofC, WBC, VADA, Team Joshua and anyone else who saw it. Despite that, a few outlets have already reported Whyte testing positive in two tests for EPO. Whyte is still involved in several lawsuits, including an ongoing case with the WBC - who he claims should have given him a bigger split against Fury.

Another issue with DFP, which Hearn does not dispute, they don't test for every banned substance like VADA and/or UKAD does. I understand he wants to save money, but when someone gets killed or seriously injured, the legal liability will fall on Hearn.

"That's not true. Only one of the two tests Benn failed was part of the WBC VADA program."

Yes, that's what I said. Read my comment again.

"UKAD banned Eric Molina after he got popped for a banned substance in the aftermath of the Joshua fight. Zolani Tete was just banned for 4 years by UKAD for his positive test with Cunningham last year. These are not UK boxers, but they had temporary licenses for their fights."

Molina and Tete both failed UKAD tests, Benn didn't. That's why the question of BBBoC/UKAD jurisdiction applies to Benn's case but didn't apply to theirs.

And as you brought Tete into it, he got popped for a fight promoted by Queensbury, and Frank Warren never said a word about it to anybody till the news was leaked to a South African news outlet 6 months later. I didn't notice Simon Jordan going after Warren over that, the way he went after Hearn ... till Eddie appeared on his show and forced him to apologise, live on air, for misrepresenting the facts. That was so funny! There's nothing like seeing an arrogant, self-righteous prick like S J getting taken down a peg!

"Another issue with DFP, which Hearn does not dispute, they don't test for every banned substance like VADA and/or UKAD does. I understand he wants to save money, but when someone gets killed or seriously injured, the legal liability will fall on Hearn."

That's nonsense. Boxing promoters are not legally liable for harm caused by cheating fighters on shows they promote. If they were, the sport of pro boxing as we know it would cease to exist!

And I don't understand why you are singling out Hearn for criticism here. Do you think other promoters have VADA testing for every fight they put on? If so, you are wrong about that.

[kafkod]

So:

UKAD were testing him but he didn't fail any tests
BBBofC weren't licensing him
He was enrolled in voluntary testing which is what he popped on
WBC were sanctioning the fight? Or at least he's ranked by the WBC.

I'm still where I was when this news broke.

The Board can't do anything. They're irrelevant.
UKAD need to explain why they didn't catch the drugs if he was allegedly juicing.
WBC have already cleared.

Is this just all because he made the Board and UKAD look bad? If UKAD don't catch things then they're worthless. I can't understand them even pursuing this. They seem hell bent on proving their own ineptitude.

That's a good point. According to Hearn, Benn was tested 4 or 5 times by UKAD in the lead up to the fight and came up clean every time.

[Kannabis Kid]

This isn't an argument. It's domination from me. You're just getting clowned like the idiot you are. Keep running away from all your failures though. Keep deflecting because it doesn't matter anyway. Either way, you're getting rolled for fun.


You tried to claim the failed test was fresh you idiot. You're doing loops all over the place. Keep doing it though. I'm forcing you to do so because you haven't got anything else. Let your ego destroy you for my entertainment.

You haven't answered to other comments you made either. When was Eddie told about the failed test for Baumgardner? The test fail was from two days before the fight. But you believe they had the results within minutes to be able to tell Eddie about it. Haha.

Haha yeah dominated to the point I ran away, oh wait that was you.

How much greater are the numbers in the US compared to the UK? Besides, we have the greatest Heavyweight in history with Lennox. You can keep your basic brawlers and overrated punchbags that are cast down as greats when they're no such thing.

Fury is superior to anyone in North America. And the dude is a fraud. How about that? Haha. He'd beat every American in history too at the weight. He'd beat them silly.

Nice of you to admit that per capita you guys are the biggest dopers. Lennox fought for Canada.

Damn I'm in your head so much again I got you double posting haha nothing new though just like the US and Mexico dominating when it comes to overall champions and leaving Not So Great Britain in the dust.

Who cares about p4p it’s made up and ****** with it being opinion based, the only purpose for it is for lower weights to be appreciated. The bottom line is Fury is king at the moment so the UK isn’t all that bad and they were running the heavyweight scene up until recently.

Haha doesn't matter go count the overall champions and tell me who has more the United States or the United Kingdom. What about Mexico vs the United Kingdom?

Who cares? The bottom line? So you are condoning steroid cheats? I bet you were throwing a fit for Canelo with Clenbuterol but Tyson and his pizza faced cousin can take anabolics and it's nothing to worry about haha what a joke. I guess you have bad reading comprehension because I said P4P steroid users not p4p boxers.

[Kzbox]

Haha yeah dominated to the point I ran away, oh wait that was you.


Nice of you to admit that per capita you guys are the biggest dopers. Lennox fought for Canada.

Damn I'm in your head so much again I got you double posting haha nothing new though just like the US and Mexico dominating when it comes to overall champions and leaving Not So Great Britain in the dust.

Haha doesn't matter go count the overall champions and tell me who has more the United States or the United Kingdom. What about Mexico vs the United Kingdom?

Who cares? The bottom line? So you are condoning steroid cheats? I bet you were throwing a fit for Canelo with Clenbuterol but Tyson and his pizza faced cousin can take anabolics and it's nothing to worry about haha what a joke. I guess you have bad reading comprehension because I said P4P steroid users not p4p boxers.

Who has the USA got really apart from Crawford, Charlo and Haney? They don't even have great resumes. The rest are hyped up to **** and done nothing (Boots, Shakur, Tank Davis) the USA sure know how to hype up their peoples i give them that. Look at the size of the USA compared to the UK yet we were running the heavyweight scene and let's be honest who the **** do you guys have in heavyweight apart from Wilder?

[OctoberRed]

"That's not true. Only one of the two tests Benn failed was part of the WBC VADA program."

Yes, that's what I said. Read my comment again.

"UKAD banned Eric Molina after he got popped for a banned substance in the aftermath of the Joshua fight. Zolani Tete was just banned for 4 years by UKAD for his positive test with Cunningham last year. These are not UK boxers, but they had temporary licenses for their fights."

Molina and Tete both failed UKAD tests, Benn didn't. That's why the question of BBBoC/UKAD jurisdiction applies to Benn's case but didn't apply to theirs.

And as you brought Tete into it, he got popped for a fight promoted by Queensbury, and Frank Warren never said a word about it to anybody till the news was leaked to a South African news outlet 6 months later. I didn't notice Simon Jordan going after Warren over that, the way he went after Hearn ... till Eddie appeared on his show and forced him to apologise, live on air, for misrepresenting the facts. That was so funny! There's nothing like seeing an arrogant, self-righteous prick like S J getting taken down a peg!

"Another issue with DFP, which Hearn does not dispute, they don't test for every banned substance like VADA and/or UKAD does. I understand he wants to save money, but when someone gets killed or seriously injured, the legal liability will fall on Hearn."

That's nonsense. Boxing promoters are not legally liable for harm caused by cheating fighters on shows they promote. If they were, the sport of pro boxing as we know it would cease to exist!

And I don't understand why you are singling out Hearn for criticism here. Do you think other promoters have VADA testing for every fight they put on? If so, you are wrong about that.

In Whyte's case, he's using the "I'm not a BBBofC" boxer defense as far as jurisdiction goes. For the Rivas failure, his biggest defense to UKAD was that he passed his VADA tests. Now that he failed at least two VADA tests, he can't go with the opposite. He's in a real hot one, which is why Hearn backed well away from that entire situation.

According to Warren, UKAD never notified him of the test results and he only found out through the SA press because UKAD advised SA Boxing and they advised Tete and his team.

When most fighters use VADA, they are ones paying for the VADA testing.

Hearn is the one hiring and paying for DFP. I'm sure there are clauses in their agreement that if DFP gets sued, Hearn would have to indemnify them - so he gets dragged into a lawsuit. I say this as someone with a legal background.

At the moment, Baumgarder's legal team are going after DFP with a chain of custody claim - rather than use science to dispute her positive. It will be interesting, if Baumgarder finds that DFP screwed up her samples, if Hearn will ever use them again. There is big question mark on why it took 9 days to get the samples to the lab - and where were they for those 9 days.

[Sid-Knee]

Haha yeah dominated to the point I ran away, oh wait that was you.


Nice of you to admit that per capita you guys are the biggest dopers. Lennox fought for Canada.

Damn I'm in your head so much again I got you double posting haha nothing new though just like the US and Mexico dominating when it comes to overall champions and leaving Not So Great Britain in the dust.

Haha doesn't matter go count the overall champions and tell me who has more the United States or the United Kingdom. What about Mexico vs the United Kingdom?

Who cares? The bottom line? So you are condoning steroid cheats? I bet you were throwing a fit for Canelo with Clenbuterol but Tyson and his pizza faced cousin can take anabolics and it's nothing to worry about haha what a joke. I guess you have bad reading comprehension because I said P4P steroid users not p4p boxers.

I didn't run away though. There wasn't a need to. I walked for reasons given. You however, are running away from answering to your comments as per usual. You're doing nothing but deflecting but pretending that you're not. You project and gaslight thinking it's going to work for you. Why would it work, ******? You're the one who is humiliating yourself all the time. That is not what you set out to do. But it's the only option i've left you with. I left you with that as your only option due to being the daddy in this relationship little man. Isn't that right? Now give me another humiliating performance for daddies entertainment.

Show me where this is a new case for Conor Benn like you claimed? Show me where Eddie had the news that Baumgardner failed two days before the fight like you claimed?

Lennox fought for Canada? Is that why he had the British flag and was announced as being from London England? Oh right. Haha.

Britain has more and of better quality on a per capita basis. You know the per capita basis you want to use when it suits but refuse to when it doesn't like an idiot?

P4P is per capita you imbecile. However, you were wrong like i proved. But you don't want to change a habit of a lifetime do you little man? But that isn't the point i'm here for. I'm here for you to degrade yourself. Therefore, you're not letting me down with any of this. You're doing what is wanted. You never let me down.

[Kannabis Kid]

I didn't run away though. There wasn't a need to. I walked for reasons given. You however, are running away from answering to your comments as per usual. You're doing nothing but deflecting but pretending that you're not. You project and gaslight thinking it's going to work for you. Why would it work, ******? You're the one who is humiliating yourself all the time. That is not what you set out to do. But it's the only option i've left you with. I left you with that as your only option due to being the daddy in this relationship little man. Isn't that right? Now give me another humiliating performance for daddies entertainment.

Show me where this is a new case for Conor Benn like you claimed? Show me where Eddie had the news that Baumgardner failed two days before the fight like you claimed?

Lennox fought for Canada? Is that why he had the British flag and was announced as being from London England? Oh right. Haha.

Britain has more and of better quality on a per capita basis. You know the per capita basis you want to use when it suits but refuse to when it doesn't like an idiot?

P4P is per capita you imbecile. However, you were wrong like i proved. But you don't want to change a habit of a lifetime do you little man? But that isn't the point i'm here for. I'm here for you to degrade yourself. Therefore, you're not letting me down with any of this. You're doing what is wanted. You never let me down.

You really did but don't worry it's all on record across 7 threads. Haha I'm running away when I'm right here? Meanwhile you literally disappeared for half a year and wouldn't even mention my name until I came to slap you up for mentioning me indirectly haha you can't even make up how ****** you are it's pretty funny.

Who did Lennox represent in the amateurs and Olympics little man?

Britain has more quality dopers per capita yes that's true but when it comes to boxing champions they will always fall behind to their daddy the United States and even their big brother Mexico always going over to the UK to slap up domestic level Brits like some good little bitches haha.

Who has the USA got really apart from Crawford, Charlo and Haney? They don't even have great resumes. The rest are hyped up to **** and done nothing (Boots, Shakur, Tank Davis) the USA sure know how to hype up their peoples i give them that. Look at the size of the USA compared to the UK yet we were running the heavyweight scene and let's be honest who the **** do you guys have in heavyweight apart from Wilder?

Who does the UK have aside from Fury? Lmao. Those chinny mental midgets Joshua and DuBois? Hahaha yeah right man.

Running the heavyweight scene? That was the eastern Euros buddy you guys got a hold of some belts and you start talking yourself up but doesn't change the fact that you will never have more Heavyweight or any weight really champions compared to the US and Mexico.

Charlo and Crawford have way better resumes than Fury his only wins are against Wilder and 1 fight against Klitschko where he backed out of the rematch after having roid rage.

[Sid-Knee]

You really did but don't worry it's all on record across 7 threads. Haha I'm running away when I'm right here? Meanwhile you literally disappeared for half a year and wouldn't even mention my name until I came to slap you up for mentioning me indirectly haha you can't even make up how ****** you are it's pretty funny.

Who did Lennox represent in the amateurs and Olympics little man?

Britain has more quality dopers per capita yes that's true but when it comes to boxing champions they will always fall behind to their daddy the United States and even their big brother Mexico always going over to the UK to slap up domestic level Brits like some good little bitches haha.

Who does the UK have aside from Fury? Lmao. Those chinny mental midgets Joshua and DuBois? Hahaha yeah right man.

Running the heavyweight scene? That was the eastern Euros buddy you guys got a hold of some belts and you start talking yourself up but doesn't change the fact that you will never have more Heavyweight or any weight really champions compared to the US and Mexico.

Charlo and Crawford have way better resumes than Fury his only wins are against Wilder and 1 fight against Klitschko where he backed out of the rematch after having roid rage.

I know it's all on record. You say this every time you get clowned. It's just insanity you like to do because you haven't got anything true or rational to say.

When you deflect away from a question to a comment you've made, that is running away you idiot. You're avoiding it. I don't know why, you still get clowned in which ever way you want it. That's how dumb you are. You can't even tell me what made me walk away. Spit it out? What's wrong? Haha.

Duh, where was Lennox born and raised? Which flag did he have when pro? Duh.

I've already proven you factually wrong on per capita with both the performance enhancers and all time champions. Mexico is the funniest though because most of your "Champions" either never beat a world class fighter, or they only beat one before getting sent packing. You have so very few high quality fighters. We have a mass of them. But keep on contradicting yourself by mentioning per capita but then claiming it doesn't count when it comes to all time champions. What can i say. It's natural for you to be a clown.

You mean they fight those who are badly inactive because they know they can't compete otherwise? What happens to them when they fight an active fighter? They get their shlt pushed in. Enjoy that typical Mexican joke Canelo with his opponent having their usual identity with being 2 weight classes smaller and being out of the ring for 18 months whilst there are fights at his own weight class and active. Just face it, you're a nation of cowards and frauds. What else would you call this? I know it burns every time you see one of your cheats get the same kind of opponent after i pointed it out. It let's you know they're true cheating cowards to their core. They run away otherwise. I guess running away is a North American thing. Isn't that right.

[SUBZER0ED]

Benn should ask the National Anti-Doping Panel to give his payoff money back.