Comments Thread For: Conor Benn Prepares For Another Legal Battle, UKAD Appeals Ruling That Cleared Him

[Sid-Knee]

Prepares for another legal battle lmao you can't make it up because it's in the title. Sorry little Sid-knee you have no counters keep it up though it's funny to me.

You tried to claim the failed test was fresh you idiot. You're doing loops all over the place. Keep doing it though. I'm forcing you to do so because you haven't got anything else. Let your ego destroy you for my entertainment.

You haven't answered to other comments you made either. When was Eddie told about the failed test for Baumgardner? The test fail was from two days before the fight. But you believe they had the results within minutes to be able to tell Eddie about it. Haha.

[Kzbox]

Google.

It's funny when another grown male comes to defense of another person they don't know. Sucks that you British are in 3rd place when it comes to boxing too.

Why make it a national attack? ****** anyway considering Fury is the best heavyweight at the moment therefore the best fighter not like a lower class fighter would beat him he's British btw.

[OctoberRed]

Mail Online broke the news about UKAD/BBBoC appealing the NADP ruling and the other articles you talk about are all referring back to that Mail article, which says that the NAPD ruling has not been made public .. but anonymous "sources" say, blah, blah, blah ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...ugs-tests.html

"Hearn did not exactly deny that during an interview with Gareth Davies"

So far as I'm aware, GAD hasn't interviewed Hearn since those articles were published.

"Hearn has been very careful in his wording to say "Benn has been cleared to box" - he never says "Benn has been cleared of the charges".

If the NAPD ruled that UKAD/BBBoC don't have the power to charge fighters with PED offences based on tests conducted by outside agencies like VADA, then there are no charges for Benn to be cleared of. Because VADA just report test results, they don't charge anybody with anything.

Articles have to write anonymous sources due to the insane privacy laws in the UK.

Remember UKAD suspended Benn in March. NADP made them lift the suspension based on the jurisdiction arguement.

UKAD created a new rule (because of Benn), which Hearn has referenced in interviews, that give them the power to punish a boxer - licensed by them in the last 12 months - if they fail a drug test even by another testing agency. Whyte must be sweating because of this.

Hearn has been using Drug Free Sport for a lot of his fights in the last few months, but Simon Jordan has been going after him over that because DFP only send results to the person that hired them - that being Hearn. They don't even receive the tests themselves. It goes straight from the lab to person who ordered the results. With others agencies like USADA, VADA, UKAD - it goes from lab to testing agency to fighter/promoter/governing bodies.

DFP creates a situation where a promoter can bury a positive result or hold it back until after a fight is over. The reason there are Baumgardner conspiracies is because the test result only went to Hearn - and then how in the world did all the media get her actual report within 2 days, but yet Whyte's VADA report - which went to Hearn, Team Joshua, ABC, BBBofC, UKAD - is nowhere to be found. Baumgardner's contract is nearly up with Hearn and they have been unable to reach a deal so far, which adds to the speculation on how her report got out there.

[Kannabis Kid]

You tried to claim the failed test was fresh you idiot. You're doing loops all over the place. Keep doing it though. I'm forcing you to do so because you haven't got anything else. Let your ego destroy you for my entertainment.

You haven't answered to other comments you made either. When was Eddie told about the failed test for Baumgardner? The test fail was from two days before the fight. But you believe they had the results within minutes to be able to tell Eddie about it. Haha.

No that's what you tell yourself to think you have an argument. The truth is all there little guy just like you running away for half a year.

[Kannabis Kid]

Why make it a national attack? ****** anyway considering Fury is the best heavyweight at the moment therefore the best fighter not like a lower class fighter would beat him he's British btw.

How many heavyweight champions does the UK have in history? Yeah Fury is also one of the people who made that country top p4p when it comes to steroids actual anabolic steroids too, it just seems everyone turned a blind eye to it.

[Sid-Knee]

No that's what you tell yourself to think you have an argument. The truth is all there little guy just like you running away for half a year.

This isn't an argument. It's domination from me. You're just getting clowned like the idiot you are. Keep running away from all your failures though. Keep deflecting because it doesn't matter anyway. Either way, you're getting rolled for fun.


You tried to claim the failed test was fresh you idiot. You're doing loops all over the place. Keep doing it though. I'm forcing you to do so because you haven't got anything else. Let your ego destroy you for my entertainment.

You haven't answered to other comments you made either. When was Eddie told about the failed test for Baumgardner? The test fail was from two days before the fight. But you believe they had the results within minutes to be able to tell Eddie about it. Haha.

[Sid-Knee]

How many heavyweight champions does the UK have in history? Yeah Fury is also one of the people who made that country top p4p when it comes to steroids actual anabolic steroids too, it just seems everyone turned a blind eye to it.

How much greater are the numbers in the US compared to the UK? Besides, we have the greatest Heavyweight in history with Lennox. You can keep your basic brawlers and overrated punchbags that are cast down as greats when they're no such thing.

Fury is superior to anyone in North America. And the dude is a fraud. How about that? Haha. He'd beat every American in history too at the weight. He'd beat them silly.

[Kzbox]

How many heavyweight champions does the UK have in history? Yeah Fury is also one of the people who made that country top p4p when it comes to steroids actual anabolic steroids too, it just seems everyone turned a blind eye to it.

Who cares about p4p it’s made up and ****** with it being opinion based, the only purpose for it is for lower weights to be appreciated. The bottom line is Fury is king at the moment so the UK isn’t all that bad and they were running the heavyweight scene up until recently.

[kafkod]

Articles have to write anonymous sources due to the insane privacy laws in the UK.

Remember UKAD suspended Benn in March. NADP made them lift the suspension based on the jurisdiction arguement.

UKAD created a new rule (because of Benn), which Hearn has referenced in interviews, that give them the power to punish a boxer - licensed by them in the last 12 months - if they fail a drug test even by another testing agency. Whyte must be sweating because of this.

Hearn has been using Drug Free Sport for a lot of his fights in the last few months, but Simon Jordan has been going after him over that because DFP only send results to the person that hired them - that being Hearn. They don't even receive the tests themselves. It goes straight from the lab to person who ordered the results. With others agencies like USADA, VADA, UKAD - it goes from lab to testing agency to fighter/promoter/governing bodies.

DFP creates a situation where a promoter can bury a positive result or hold it back until after a fight is over. The reason there are Baumgardner conspiracies is because the test result only went to Hearn - and then how in the world did all the media get her actual report within 2 days, but yet Whyte's VADA report - which went to Hearn, Team Joshua, ABC, BBBofC, UKAD - is nowhere to be found. Baumgardner's contract is nearly up with Hearn and they have been unable to reach a deal so far, which adds to the speculation on how her report got out there.

"Articles have to write anonymous sources due to the insane privacy laws in the UK."

That depends on the context and the sources, same as anywhere else in the world.

"UKAD created a new rule (because of Benn), which Hearn has referenced in interviews, that give them the power to punish a boxer - licensed by them in the last 12 months - if they fail a drug test even by another testing agency. Whyte must be sweating because of this."

Whyte has a Portuguese licence. I don't know if he's been licensed by the BBBoC in the last 12 months.

The difference between Benn's case and Whyte's is that one of Benn's failed tests was done by VADA on behalf of the WBC. And the WBC, of course did clear him on the basis of scientific evidence, even if Benn himself disputes that evidence, which puts a weird twist on the case. Whatever, if UKAD/BBBoC don't have the legal right to sanction him - or even charge him - on the evidence of a VADA test result, then that's a problem they created themselves, and it isn't fair to condemn Benn for getting off a charge because of "jurisdiction". He didn't write the rules!


"Hearn has been using Drug Free Sport for a lot of his fights in the last few months, but Simon Jordan has been going after him over that because DFP only send results to the person that hired them - that being Hearn. They don't even receive the tests themselves. It goes straight from the lab to person who ordered the results. With others agencies like USADA, VADA, UKAD - it goes from lab to testing agency to fighter/promoter/governing bodies."

The reason why Hearn uses DFS sport for low budget fights like Baumgarder vs Linardatou is because it wouldn't make financial sense to pay for pre fight VADA testing, which would probably cost him more than he stands to make from the fight, after the fighters have been paid. Other promoters don't have any pre-fight testing at all for low budget fights like that.

"DFP creates a situation where a promoter can bury a positive result or hold it back until after a fight is over. The reason there are Baumgardner conspiracies is because the test result only went to Hearn - and then how in the world did all the media get her actual report within 2 days, but yet Whyte's VADA report - which went to Hearn, Team Joshua, ABC, BBBofC, UKAD - is nowhere to be found. Baumgardner's contract is nearly up with Hearn and they have been unable to reach a deal so far, which adds to the speculation on how her report got out there."

There are Baumgardner conspiracy theories because of the internet and the number of people with anti Hearn/Matchroom agendas who frequent it. Talking of which - the rumour is that Baumgardner was set to leave Matchroom and sign up with Jake Paul, who is in the process of being sued by Eddie Hearn for fight-fixing allegations. Makes you think, eh?

I'm sure you know the reason why Dillian Whyte's VADA report is nowhere to be seen, and it isn't because Eddie Hearn is suppressing it.

[OctoberRed]

"Articles have to write anonymous sources due to the insane privacy laws in the UK."

That depends on the context and the sources, same as anywhere else in the world.

"UKAD created a new rule (because of Benn), which Hearn has referenced in interviews, that give them the power to punish a boxer - licensed by them in the last 12 months - if they fail a drug test even by another testing agency. Whyte must be sweating because of this."

Whyte has a Portuguese licence. I don't know if he's been licensed by the BBBoC in the last 12 months.

The difference between Benn's case and Whyte's is that one of Benn's failed tests was done by VADA on behalf of the WBC. And the WBC, of course did clear him on the basis of scientific evidence, even if Benn himself disputes that evidence, which puts a weird twist on the case. Whatever, if UKAD/BBBoC don't have the legal right to sanction him - or even charge him - on the evidence of a VADA test result, then that's a problem they created themselves, and it isn't fair to condemn Benn for getting off a charge because of "jurisdiction". He didn't write the rules!


"Hearn has been using Drug Free Sport for a lot of his fights in the last few months, but Simon Jordan has been going after him over that because DFP only send results to the person that hired them - that being Hearn. They don't even receive the tests themselves. It goes straight from the lab to person who ordered the results. With others agencies like USADA, VADA, UKAD - it goes from lab to testing agency to fighter/promoter/governing bodies."

The reason why Hearn uses DFS sport for low budget fights like Baumgarder vs Linardatou is because it wouldn't make financial sense to pay for pre fight VADA testing, which would probably cost him more than he stands to make from the fight, after the fighters have been paid. Other promoters don't have any pre-fight testing at all for low budget fights like that.

"DFP creates a situation where a promoter can bury a positive result or hold it back until after a fight is over. The reason there are Baumgardner conspiracies is because the test result only went to Hearn - and then how in the world did all the media get her actual report within 2 days, but yet Whyte's VADA report - which went to Hearn, Team Joshua, ABC, BBBofC, UKAD - is nowhere to be found. Baumgardner's contract is nearly up with Hearn and they have been unable to reach a deal so far, which adds to the speculation on how her report got out there."

There are Baumgardner conspiracy theories because of the internet and the number of people with anti Hearn/Matchroom agendas who frequent it. Talking of which - the rumour is that Baumgardner was set to leave Matchroom and sign up with Jake Paul, who is in the process of being sued by Eddie Hearn for fight-fixing allegations. Makes you think, eh?

I'm sure you know the reason why Dillian Whyte's VADA report is nowhere to be seen, and it isn't because Eddie Hearn is suppressing it.

That's not true. Only one of the two tests Benn failed was part of the WBC VADA program. The other was a normal VADA test. I forget which was which.

Whyte was licensed by the BBBofC for the Franklin fight and it was sanctioned by the BBBofC and UKAD. When any fighter competes in a BBBofC sanctioned event, they receive a temporary license.

UKAD banned Eric Molina after he got popped for a banned substance in the aftermath of the Joshua fight. Zolani Tete was just banned for 4 years by UKAD for his positive test with Cunningham last year. These are not UK boxers, but they had temporary licenses for their fights.

Whyte's VADA report is nowhere to be seen because his lawyer threatened to sue Hearn, BBBofC, WBC, VADA, Team Joshua and anyone else who saw it. Despite that, a few outlets have already reported Whyte testing positive in two tests for EPO. Whyte is still involved in several lawsuits, including an ongoing case with the WBC - who he claims should have given him a bigger split against Fury.

Another issue with DFP, which Hearn does not dispute, they don't test for every banned substance like VADA and/or UKAD does. I understand he wants to save money, but when someone gets killed or seriously injured, the legal liability will fall on Hearn.