Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua Scores Brutal One-Punch Knockout of Robert Helenius in Seventh

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  • pollywog
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    #521
    Originally posted by crisantonio917
    Anyway that truly know boxing knows the result was a foregone conclusion and Helenius came for a saudi check to do his job and wait for the right hand and bye bye...
    Surely youre not saying Big Bob was waiting for the opportunity to drop his guard and take a shot worth lying down for, and then to sell it for all he can get...

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    • Someone88
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      #522
      Wow! Yes! Some improvements made. Great win for Joshua!

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      • Monty Fisto
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        #523
        Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz

        Notice use of the word "could". I guess comprehension wasn't your strong point at school.
        I noticed the word could. Here's another word for you: pointless. Could I use it in a sentence? Sure. As in, your whole post was pointless.

        Perhaps you could regale us with some more posts about what could happen in fights that haven't even been lined up yet...

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        • Elastic Recoilz
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          #524
          Originally posted by Monty Fisto

          I noticed the word could. Here's another word for you: pointless. Could I use it in a sentence? Sure. As in, your whole post was pointless.

          Perhaps you could regale us with some more posts about what could happen in fights that haven't even been lined up yet...
          well... the last time I checked this was a boxing forum - a community where all things boxing are discussed. what did you think it was??

          It seems me commenting on wilder laying out AJ in round 1 and it being a realistic permutation has got to you for some weird reason...

          Odd guy.

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          • mrbig1
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            #525
            AJ worked the jab well. when he landed a good shot, he didn't rush in like he did vs Ruiz. much smarter fight.

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            • Tom Joad
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              #526
              EB: "Joshua's camp wouldn't have taken the fight unless they already had lots of inside info to the effect that Helenius is shot. Woefully shot."

              I am sorry to say that Helenius looked like someone who was just waiting for the appropriate moment to lie down on the floor. I was rooting for him but he didn't even try. Probably they made an "arrangement", but I also noticed him dropping his gloves like his arms were tired.
              Last edited by Tom Joad; 08-13-2023, 02:48 PM.

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              • BustedKnuckles
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                #527
                Originally posted by Tom Joad
                EB: "Joshua's camp wouldn't have taken the fight unless they already had lots of inside info to the effect that Helenius is shot. Woefully shot."

                I am sorry to say that Helenius looked like someone who was just waiting for the appropriate moment to lie down on the floor. I was rooting for him but he didn't even try. Probably they made an "arrangement", but I also noticed him dropping his gloves like his arms were tired.
                Barely did more than jab. Kept popping up straight with head in the air; like he was inviting a knockout. I dont get that; most fighters level change down and he level changes straight up. Anyway, he was barely fighting and it was only a matter of time.

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                • sege64
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                  #528
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
                  Thing I noticed last night was ajs lost his ability to counter punch

                  Look at the charles martin right hand counter he landed over Martins jab then look at the multiple opertunities he had to land a similar shot last night

                  He attacks methodically with a jab to create openings now and defends

                  He doesn't counter much like the old days which i think means hes lost a step

                  I don't even put it down to mental weakness I think he's just lost some timing and can't react to shots the same way anymore
                  Good post. I've been putting it down to fear of getting caught with something but you could well be right. The constant changing of trainers can't help.

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                  • Tom Joad
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                    #529
                    Originally posted by BustedKnuckles

                    Barely did more than jab. Kept popping up straight with head in the air; like he was inviting a knockout. I dont get that; most fighters level change down and he level changes straight up. Anyway, he was barely fighting and it was only a matter of time.
                    I believe they gave him the big money fight at a moments notice - and told him he'd earn big bucks out of nowhere - but there's a but: "No KO punches! Got that, Robert?" This is gangster-run boxing we're talking about, not a legitimate honest sport. It made no sense otherwise. He was just dawdling, killing time, and he had to know he couldn't win on points in that place. This was his chance of a lifetime. He had to go for broke, for the KO, not do silly boring sparring.

                    PS Sorry for repeating myself to a large extent, but i think that most people, me included, didn't read this whole giant thread.

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                    • joe strong
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                      #530
                      Originally posted by Tom Joad

                      I believe they gave him the big money fight at a moments notice - and told him he'd earn big bucks out of nowhere - but there's a but: "No KO punches! Got that, Robert?" This is gangster-run boxing we're talking about, not a legitimate honest sport. It made no sense otherwise. He was just dawdling, killing time, and he had to know he couldn't win on points in that place. This was his chance of a lifetime. He had to go for broke, for the KO, not do silly boring sparring.

                      PS Sorry for repeating myself to a large extent, but i think that most people, me included, didn't read this whole giant thread.
                      Why watch boxing if every fight is fixed? Helenius had 1 round under his belt since the Kownacki rematch. He got crushed in one round by Wilder. Comes back a year later to fight in his home country in an 8 rounder against a guy with 6 pro fights. Exactly how hard do you think he trained for that? Then Whyte pisses dirty & he gets the call on a week’s notice. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t in peak form against Joshua but he probably got a nice 6 digit check to take the fight. This reminds me of when Povetkin pissed dirty before one of his fights & they called Duhaupus on 1 day notice & paid him 500000 to save the event in Moscow. He had to borrow a pair of trunks & shoes to fight. He was on holidays with his wife. He lasted 6 rounds. Helenius was obviously not in peak shape for the 6 fight pro & hit the jackpot with this fight. I don’t think anyone expected him to win. He never had the best gas tank at the best of times so how much gas do you think he had in the tank for this fight?
                      Last edited by joe strong; 08-13-2023, 06:48 PM.

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