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    #61
    Originally posted by Boxing 112

    How was he blackballed. He literally stepped in and took the same terms Loma had agreed to. Go to Aus with a rematch clause. Won undisputed

    3rd fight he then got Loma


    Great job from TR
    Bob Arum told Haney that he signed with the wrong promoter. And sure enough Haney never got a shot at the belts until he gave Arum control over his next 3 fights.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
      Spence can’t beat Bud at 154, 160 or any weight you excuse makers make. He doesn’t have the style to beat a fighter like Bud. He isn’t crafty enough. I’ve been blocked by many Spence fans I see, lmao. I go to quote their posts and realize that they are truly butt hurt over losing money that they had no clue that they would lose. Now Spence was weight drained, lmao, Bud told you before the fight and years ago that the excuses will fly. Right now Spence fans don’t have an opinion on boxing. Ban them for a year talking boxing and have them perform Community service for 3 years lol…
      let me extend an apology on the behalf of these half wits who joined the bandwagon when the hype was big.

      I am a fan of Spence from as far back as the Olympics. Nobody was rocking with him on this website like that when he came on the scene. It was Canelo, Pac, GGG, Floyd and nonsense.

      Spence got his ass whooped and I don't see any way for him to rectify it. As you said, he doesn't have the style to do it.

      Crawford isn't losing power moving to 154. Spence got hit flush once and was shell shocked. You can see on his face he had the look of someone who said "what tf is in his glove?"

      He's not beating Crawford and I said that humbly as the leader of this Spence team. The conductor of the Spence bandwagon. Their ignorance should not be taken as law. Instead accept what I have said in this comment as the true stance of true Spence fans.

      Man, I'm hurt. Had to remove his name from my sig. He was the successor since 2012. Since the f.ucking Olympics and he got f.ucking wrecked. Unbelievably wrecked to the point he looked like an actual bum. I couldn't believe it.

      By round 4 I said "he's not beating Crawford" and sat in disbelief.

      F.uck.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Crawford already has said he doesn't want to do it, so NO, not every boxer would do it. Khan was a WW, and he fought Canelo at a 155lb. Catch-Weight, so sorry, not the same!
        ———
        Khan started his career at 135 just like Bud. Oh ok!! Catchweight of 155!! That makes a huuuge difference. Ok! Such a casual.

        Crawford just made $25 million and is not driven by money so

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          #64
          Originally posted by F l i c k e r

          let me extend an apology on the behalf of these half wits who joined the bandwagon when the hype was big.

          I am a fan of Spence from as far back as the Olympics. Nobody was rocking with him on this website like that when he came on the scene. It was Canelo, Pac, GGG, Floyd and nonsense.

          Spence got his ass whooped and I don't see any way for him to rectify it. As you said, he doesn't have the style to do it.

          Crawford isn't losing power moving to 154. Spence got hit flush once and was shell shocked. You can see on his face he had the look of someone who said "what tf is in his glove?"

          He's not beating Crawford and I said that humbly as the leader of this Spence team. The conductor of the Spence bandwagon. Their ignorance should not be taken as law. Instead accept what I have said in this comment as the true stance of true Spence fans.

          Man, I'm hurt. Had to remove his name from my sig. He was the successor since 2012. Since the f.ucking Olympics and he got f.ucking wrecked. Unbelievably wrecked to the point he looked like an actual bum. I couldn't believe it.

          By round 4 I said "he's not beating Crawford" and sat in disbelief.

          F.uck.
          I applaud this post. It’s just a case of a very good fighter losing to a great fighter.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Oregonian
            ———
            Khan started his career at 135 just like Bud. Oh ok!! Catchweight of 155!! That makes a huuuge difference. Ok! Such a casual.

            Crawford just made $25 million and is not driven by money so
            Khan fought Luis Collazo, Devon Alexander, and Chris Algieri at WW before fighting Canelo! He did not go up 2 weight classes to fight Canelo! He went from 147 to 155, which is only 8 lbs.! Jermell is going from 147 to 168, which is 21 lbs.! BIG difference!

            Terence Crawford: “Canelo Doesn’t Really Interest Me Because Of The Size Factor”

            ​The question of ‘who’s next’ inevitably arose during the discussion, with speculation regarding potential rematches and fresh challengers. Crawford’s contract binds him to certain obligations, including honoring a rematch if that’s the desired move for his career. In response to this, he mentioned:

            “That’s my obligation in the contract and I have to honor that. I want to thank Errol Spence, because without him really wanting to fight and doing what he can do, along with me to get this fight done, we wouldn’t be fighting.”

            When TMZ Sports asked who he would choose as his next opponent, given the choice, Crawford didn’t hesitate before answering:

            “I would definitely choose Charlo. It’s a meaningful fight; there’s more history, more on the table.”

            However, he dismissed the idea of a potential fight with Canelo, citing the weight difference as a significant factor.

            Crawford was direct when addressing the potential bout with Canelo Alvarez,. In his own words, Crawford explained:

            “Canelo is two, three, even four weight classes above me, depending on which fight you’re talking about. So, to be honest, Canelo doesn’t really interest me because of the size factor.



            so again, NO, not every fighter would do what Jermell Charlo is doing! ​

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              #66
              Originally posted by allen23

              He'll lose his wbo belt, no?
              You're right but people will still consider him the undisputed champ since he never lost his belt in the ring and I'm sure Tim would rather actually beat the champ than be handed the title because Charlo didn't defend in time. Maybe you're right that Charlo is daring to be great but I still think it's all about the money and losing to Canelo at 168, two weight classes above 154, isn't as damaging to Jermell's career than losing to a contender in Tszyu who hasn't even fought for a world title yet.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                Khan fought Luis Collazo, Devon Alexander, and Chris Algieri at WW before fighting Canelo! He did not go up 2 weight classes to fight Canelo! He went from 147 to 155, which is only 8 lbs.! Jermell is going from 147 to 168, which is 21 lbs.! BIG difference!

                Terence Crawford: “Canelo Doesn’t Really Interest Me Because Of The Size Factor”

                ​The question of ‘who’s next’ inevitably arose during the discussion, with speculation regarding potential rematches and fresh challengers. Crawford’s contract binds him to certain obligations, including honoring a rematch if that’s the desired move for his career. In response to this, he mentioned:

                “That’s my obligation in the contract and I have to honor that. I want to thank Errol Spence, because without him really wanting to fight and doing what he can do, along with me to get this fight done, we wouldn’t be fighting.”

                When TMZ Sports asked who he would choose as his next opponent, given the choice, Crawford didn’t hesitate before answering:

                “I would definitely choose Charlo. It’s a meaningful fight; there’s more history, more on the table.”

                However, he dismissed the idea of a potential fight with Canelo, citing the weight difference as a significant factor.

                Crawford was direct when addressing the potential bout with Canelo Alvarez,. In his own words, Crawford explained:

                “Canelo is two, three, even four weight classes above me, depending on which fight you’re talking about. So, to be honest, Canelo doesn’t really interest me because of the size factor.



                so again, NO, not every fighter would do what Jermell Charlo is doing! ​
                You can't compare the two. Charlo is way bigger than Bud who hasn't even fought at 154 yet. How long has Charlo fought at 154? His entire pro career to my knowledge. Bud came up from lightweight. At 6 foot and fighting his whole career at 154, Charlo at least has the frame to fill out at 168. Bud is 5' 8" and has already moved up multiple weight classes.
                If that doesn't hold any significance to you, I don't think you understand how weight classes work. The Spence fans thought he would be too big for Bud at 147. And don't try to say that Canelo is short too. He has a significantly broader frame than Bud which is why he started his pro career at 147.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Khan fought Luis Collazo, Devon Alexander, and Chris Algieri at WW before fighting Canelo! He did not go up 2 weight classes to fight Canelo! He went from 147 to 155, which is only 8 lbs.! Jermell is going from 147 to 168, which is 21 lbs.! BIG difference!
                  ;
                  When did Mell fight at 147? He's been at light middle his whole career AFAIK? 154-168 is 14 lbs.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by allen23

                    You can single out any fighter in history's record and pour salt on it. I'm no fan boy I appreciate the sweet science and if u can't accept crawford is the best of this generation you're fooling yourself. He's truly never being in a fight that you can argue he lost. He's the only ever two time, two weight division world champ. And altho he's a killer in the ring he's humble and dedicated outside of it. He's a true champion and as he said will only be truly respected when he retires.

                    He can do it all, give the man his flowers
                    "He's truly never being in a fight that you can argue he lost."

                    You are right on the Mark! Not even the best of the all-time greats have won all their fights without controversy. This includes Muhammad Ali (Norton), Sugar Ray Leonard, (Hagler), Mayweather (Castillo), Chavez (Meldrick Taylor) ..and the list goes on.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      Khan fought Luis Collazo, Devon Alexander, and Chris Algieri at WW before fighting Canelo! He did not go up 2 weight classes to fight Canelo! He went from 147 to 155, which is only 8 lbs.! Jermell is going from 147 to 168, which is 21 lbs.! BIG difference!

                      Terence Crawford: “Canelo Doesn’t Really Interest Me Because Of The Size Factor”

                      ​The question of ‘who’s next’ inevitably arose during the discussion, with speculation regarding potential rematches and fresh challengers. Crawford’s contract binds him to certain obligations, including honoring a rematch if that’s the desired move for his career. In response to this, he mentioned:

                      “That’s my obligation in the contract and I have to honor that. I want to thank Errol Spence, because without him really wanting to fight and doing what he can do, along with me to get this fight done, we wouldn’t be fighting.”

                      When TMZ Sports asked who he would choose as his next opponent, given the choice, Crawford didn’t hesitate before answering:

                      “I would definitely choose Charlo. It’s a meaningful fight; there’s more history, more on the table.”

                      However, he dismissed the idea of a potential fight with Canelo, citing the weight difference as a significant factor.

                      Crawford was direct when addressing the potential bout with Canelo Alvarez,. In his own words, Crawford explained:

                      “Canelo is two, three, even four weight classes above me, depending on which fight you’re talking about. So, to be honest, Canelo doesn’t really interest me because of the size factor.



                      so again, NO, not every fighter would do what Jermell Charlo is doing! ​
                      /———-

                      So because Khan fought at WW and 8 Ibs isn’t really a “big deal”, that makes it different? So there was a chance Khan could have beaten Canelo because 8 Ibs is meh! Well ok then.

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