Comments Thread For: Tim Bradley: Terence Crawford Would Beat a Prime Floyd Mayweather!

[Bostonfear]

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“As we know”?? Lol nope only you guys know that.
Which guys did Floyd not fight in their prime? Floyd has 50 fights, can you name 5 guys that Floyd didn’t fight in “their prime”?

Look I am not a Floyd hater so chill out. No one can deny the dude at WW was astonishing how hard he was to hit. Truly atg stuff when it comes to that.

This is an anonymous forum, none of us need to front or feel like we need to defend our favorites, on a side note.

But man, prime Pacquiao. Marquez's coach quote about him was hes a wild cheetah that doesnt get tired. Pacs work rate was incredible. A buzz saw work rate. Pac steadily slowed down over his 30s. You could see his work rate start to drop. And then you saw how he really couldnt keep it going when he fight Thurman. Its natural.

Floyd clearly didn't fight a prime Pacquiao. If you look at the highlights of Cotto before he got into his famous wars, he looked so crazy dangerous. Just far far faster and more explosive. That first time Floyd retired was when early killer Cotto that ppl highly regarded, I thought his uncle said something that implied Floyd retired partly due to not really wanting to fight Cotto.

The most obvious example is Mosley.

Look the most obvious and wrong counter is, well Floyd aged at the exact same amount, its not like he was frozen in time. But the dude didn't get into wars, so was well positioned to fight guys who were warriors who took a lot of tough fights. Those guys were not the same fighters. And Mosley was just old as hell. Yes, Mosley didnt give Floyd the fight for a shortwhile, that just really justify Floyd only fighting him once he wasnt a threat.

Thats the reason ppl say Floyd was selective. Its not exactly an unheard of opinion. You even gots the likes of ESPN anchors saying this.

[1Eriugenus]

'When Floyd knew someone was a hard ass fight or a real threat, he stayed away. Like young Shane, Paul Williams, 2008-2009 Pacquiao, a prime Margarito. Because of this, I have reason to believe he would've avoided Bud and/or Boots, because he's too intelligent and knows what he's looking at'

No, sorry, I'm not having that. I remember Floyd fighting Genaro Hernandez at 130 & everyone said, 'that is a bit too ambitious for a young kid'. When he defends v Angel Manfredo everyone said 'Manfredo's a beast, steer clear of him'.When he lost (& IMO he did lose) to Castillo but was gifted the decision he could've played the Calzaghe card & said ' oh, I don't do rematches'. No, he went straight back & in the rematch he beat Castillo like a dusty old carpet. Floyd doesn't duck, never did, never will.

[Oregonian]

People still out here leg humping Floyd and his undefeated record.... He beat so many champions....yadda yadda...... Respect to his accomplishments, but why do all that love for him but then try to break down Crawford's career. Crawford has now defeated14 world champions. 9 of them were undefeated going into the fight.....But we belittle Crawford's accomplishments because of how easy he made it look vs his opposition.

Those of us who followed Floyd's career and not just leg humped him for his name.... We all know that he strategically fought certain champions "at the right time". Sugar Shane, Canelo, Manny, are easy names to throw out that many argue he did not fight them at their best....but Floyd gets ultimate props for beating them.....Meanwhile Crawford fought Gamboa...undefeated, top5 p4p by Ring Magazine.....and people belittle that accomplishment. They give Gamboa ultimate props for landing a clean punch in the 6th round in between Crawford's attack....ignoring the fact that Gamboa hit the canvas 5x in that fight. How come no one brings up the fact that Zab Judah rocked Floyd twice in their fight and 1 (or both) of those times should have been counted as a knockdown.

Fact is.....Crawford has ALWAYS been dominate vs his opponents and it isn't only just his physical skill set. His IQ in the ring is worth of praise as much as anyone in history. Floyd is the same... as defensively elite as many label him.....he has been touched up multiple times by individuals who aren't as talented as Crawford. So if someone thinks that Crawford could beat a prime Floyd.....stop trying to act like that individual is clueless of the sport.

It's something that can't be proven but it is a great talking point..... Just like Ali vs Tyson in their primes.......

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Si when exactly would have been the right time for Floyd to fight Mosley? Or Oscar?
Can you please tell us when those fights should have happened? Please, humor me.

[ramses07]

would've been a great fight, but I dont think Floyd fought any legitimate black fighters (lol berto and Judah)

[HarvardBlue]

Mayweather does well against counter punchers so I’d give him the edge in that department. Crawford is a sniper that throws everything with precise bad intentions. I would give him the edge there. Mayweather is better at adjusting. Crawford kinda does well adjusting except it’s not as nuanced. He basically just increases his output and precision. Mayweather collects data and figures what kind of style he’s going to fight the rest of the way. I give him the edge in adjusting. Don’t get caught up in the moment because Crawford beat Spence. He made the fight super easy for Crawford after the first KD. He just kept coming in reckless which he hadn’t really done since the Porter fight. Crawford is the best fighter for this era but let’s see him go through a war for 12 rounds and come out on top.

[mjh1969]

The guy that beats Floyd has to be explosive, elusive and fast. Everyone that he fought tired out from rounds 9-12. Crawford would have been capable with a stiff jab, right lead, switching stances and keeping Floyd off balance. Crawford would have to watch for Floyd's lead right hand. Crawford would also have to be consistent with a great body attack. Crawford could beat Floyd prime for prime. Floyd most likely would not fight Bud in his prime. He would wait until Bud got older.

Good hypothetical fight though.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

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Si when exactly would have been the right time for Floyd to fight Mosley? Or Oscar?
Can you please tell us when those fights should have happened? Please, humor me.

Only humorous characteristic in this conversation is your comprehension struggles. Maybe it's because you are looking to debate rather than actually understand the purpose of the comment. Or maybe it's just because you don't really understand what is being said..... Regardless, I'm not interest in suggesting when something "should have happened" in history as it does no one any good, nor does it help this conversation.. Fact is....the didn't happen when we as fans first called for it...... Also, I never mentioned Oscar....which further lets me know, rather than you trying to understand what I was saying, you had already started the debate in your head and threw other names in the pot for a response.

You can act like the Floyd sought after and fought all of his opponents in their prime. Realistically, we know he did not. Especially later in his career. No knock on it, we still support and love him for who he was to the sport. The debate you are looking for, you won't get here. You should probably pack you emotions back in your bag and keep it moving.

[lolpz]

Floyd really needed his excessive holding and clinching to use that defensive style. But he can't do that against Crawford who was a state level wrestler, and would control that part very easily. And post Zab, Floyd was such a defensive fighter. Floyds tactics mayve not beaten a prime pac, cotto, or mosley.

Crawford? We have seen how damned accurate he is and stance switching, and power shot from any position. I think he would beat up Floyd.

Floyd had close fights, and lack luster fights. Crawford has destroyed pretty much everyone he has fought.

Crawford does one thing better than any fighter I have ever seen. The way he punches down is incredible. Dipping fighters are so tough to hit crawford is a master at it. He's kinda a master at defusing that kinda elusive movement fighters try to use

And how does Floyd clinch with Crawford is so good at controlling the body with his wrestling backgroud.

Think Crawford might even destroy Floyd.

And we know Floyd didnt want to fight some fighters in their prime, or maybe the biggest WWs, while Crawford would fight absolutely anyone in his division. Floyd was put on ***** street by the ghost of Mosley. Crawford would straight up KO him

Floyd won’t ever clinch Crawford because Crawford won’t ever go after Floyd that way. Crawford will stay on the outside and get out pointed every single round. Out foxed, out smarted, out boxed, everything in the book from the outside that one man can do to another, Floyd would do to Crawford.

[lolpz]

spence never does lateral movements. A pre accident spence was the same fighter. He went life and death with porter and barely beat him. He then dominated garcia post accident. You have no idea what you're talking about.

He went head first against Porter and beat him at his own game to prove a point…he did that same thing with Crawford and got picked apart and demolished from the outside. Terrible idea.

That Spence that fought Porter was a stronger Spence too, not only because of the accident but he had been at 147 less time and was younger and easier to make the weight for him. Look at Spence’s eyes in the damn dressing room before the fight….thats AFTER rehydration. Man looked like a ****ing walking zombie. Never seen sunken lifeless eyes AFTER rehydration like that in my entire life of watching boxers kill themselves to make wright.

You will see plenty of lateral movement from the outside coming from Spence in the Mikey fight, go rewatch it. His gameplan was completely different then against Porter and Crawford.

[Roadblock]

Floyd won’t ever clinch Crawford because Crawford won’t ever go after Floyd that way. Crawford will stay on the outside and get out pointed every single round. Out foxed, out smarted, out boxed, everything in the book from the outside that one man can do to another, Floyd would do to Crawford.

And its simply because Floyd is faster everywhere, and Floyd doesnt do patterns so its extremely hard to time him because he is so reactive on the fly, Floyds feet will frustrate TC no end making him reach because Mayweather ain't falling for any traps, TC showed how being so much quicker than Spence made it easy, well Floiyd is quicker than TC, truth is with great fighters anybody can win these fantasy fights, Im grateful to have seen both of them.