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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #51
    manny vs marquez 4

    "Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny Pacquiao drug tests come back negative"

    Steroid and other performance-enhancing drug tests given to Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao were declared negative Friday by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

      yes, because there was no random blood test for the 4th fight!!! wtf are you rambling on about??? you said there was NO testing at all for the marquez vs pac 4th fight... i just proved you wrong. now you changing the goal post to "random" ???? LOL!!!!
      Werent you and joseph discussing random testing?

      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-03-2023, 02:12 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by joseph5620

        Random testing doesn't have cut off dates. 30 days before a fight cut off date is not random testing. You can't dictate when they test you. That defeats the purpose of it. What part of that are you not understanding?
        Apparently all of it

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          #54
          Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

          what are you not getting???? he will still get tested randomly up until the cut off... so he will get tested randomly up until 30 days from the fight.

          how will he know which day they are gonna test him? LOLOLOL.
          What I'm not getting is how you don't understand how random testing works. Either it's random or it isn't. There is no in between.

          When you say random "until 30 days out" that clearly means it's no longer random testing. There are no cut off dates for random testing and it would be pointless if a fighter was allowed 30 days with no testing.


          Pacquiao wanted 30 days of no testing. That's not random testing. Pacquiao refused random blood testing and those are the facts.Very simple to understand no matter how delusional you choose to be.
          Last edited by joseph5620; 08-03-2023, 03:03 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxing 112
            There has to be VADA for any WBC championship fight
            Technically speaking, that's not true. The WBC only does random testing for its contenders ranked in the top 15 in each weight division; Through their Clean Boxing Program.

            For a particular bout; Both fighters have to volunteer to pay to do random testing on their own. It's not mandatory. However, both parties agreed not to do that for this Crawford/Spence fight.

            Yet, all boxers are required to take a post-fight urine test by the commission though.​

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              #56
              Originally posted by champion4ever

              Technically speaking, that's not true. The WBC only does random testing for its contenders ranked in the top 15 in each weight division; Through their Clean Boxing Program.

              For a particular bout; Both fighters have to volunteer to pay to do random testing on their own. It's not mandatory. However, both parties agreed not to do that for this Crawford/Spence fight.

              Yet, all boxers are required to take a post-fight urine test by the commission though.​
              It is. Like you said if your top 15 you need to sign up for it. Otherwise get dropped out of rankings like Benn did. If your champ there is vada.

              Where did you read both fighters agreed not to do vada. Ive read they both enrolled. We'll know soon enough as vada post that fighters completed it and were clean

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                #57
                Originally posted by champion4ever

                Technically speaking, that's not true. The WBC only does random testing for its contenders ranked in the top 15 in each weight division; Through their Clean Boxing Program.

                For a particular bout; Both fighters have to volunteer to pay to do random testing on their own. It's not mandatory. However, both parties agreed not to do that for this Crawford/Spence fight.

                Yet, all boxers are required to take a post-fight urine test by the commission though.​
                Crawford and Spence had Vada.


                Also the rules from wbc:

                Each of the following shall be considered or become an Eligible Boxer subject to testing under the CPB Out-of-Competition Anti-Doping Testing:

                1. Any boxer who as of January 1 of each year is a WBC World Champion;

                2. Any boxer who as of January 1 of each year is ranked in the top 15 in the WBC World Ratings or who throughout the year becomes ranked in the top 15 in the WBC World Ratings;


                3. Any boxer who becomes eligible to challenge for a WBC World Championship bout through a WBC ruling; or

                4. Any boxer who does not fall within conditions 1-3 above but who voluntarily submits to become an Eligible Boxer under these protocols.


                Tyson Fury is going through Vada (see vada for confirmation) for the Ngannou fight as wbc champ even though the wbc belt is not on the line

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  Werent you and joseph discussing random testing?
                  yes, but then you quoted my post about crawford vs gamboa NOT having any drug testing at all, then you said pac vs marquez also did not have any drug testing. i proved you wrong again like always.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by joseph5620

                    What I'm not getting is how you don't understand how random testing works. Either it's random or it isn't. There is no in between.

                    When you say random "until 30 days out" that clearly means it's no longer random testing. There are no cut off dates for random testing and it would be pointless if a fighter was allowed 30 days with no testing.


                    Pacquiao wanted 30 days of no testing. That's not random testing. Pacquiao refused random blood testing and those are the facts.Very simple to understand no matter how delusional you choose to be.
                    wrong.. like i explained, up until the cut off, pac will still get tested randomly!!! so if training camp starts june 1st and the actual fight is Aug 29th, then pac will get tested randomly in june and july.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                      wrong.. like i explained, up until the cut off, pac will still get tested randomly!!! so if training camp starts june 1st and the actual fight is Aug 29th, then pac will get tested randomly in june and july.
                      Youre an idiot, random has no cut of dates its random right up to fight time, exactly the same as Manny made Rios have it, random right up to fight time no cut of dates RANDOM all the way.

                      Tell me why didn't Manny want a cut of date for blood testing with Rios ?

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