Comments Thread For: Naoya Inoue Drops, Stops Stephen Fulton In 8th Round To Become Four-Division Champion

[Monty Fisto]

Pound for pound is a really strange concept because if everyone was the same size you, would have to take away a lot of attributes from fighters

put 20lbs on Inoue, he wont be as fast anymore.

Let's say Spence is 122lbs instead of 147lbs, he's no longer as physically strong

A beterbiev at 147 lbs doesn't have the same power as he does at 175

I understand people say it's all relative and it would be relative to the weight they're at if they're all the same size but relativity isn't linear, theres way too many variables for it to be linear.

A big part of what makes a fighter fight how they do is their natural physical construct, biomechanics wtc...and if you change that, they're not the same person anymore, thus not knowing if they would be a good fighter or not if they were essentially different person who was naturally much bigger or smaller than they are as we know them.

In short, pound for pound is a lot of nonsense that can't be measured factually and makes no scientific sense. So it comes favouritism or whose achievements you like.

But scientifically it makes no sense because you would essentially be requiring people to be a completely different person with a different physical construct and completely different biomechanics. all that would remain the same would be their name...

You're absolutely right and P4P is a load of bollocks.

That said, people still compile P4P lists ... and if they're going to do that, Inoue has to be #1.

[The Big Dunn]

damm you aint lying about this...

Yes he is. He’s over exaggerating one or two opinions and projecting it on to everyone black.

Whenever a poster talks about “ all over the internet “ you know they are lying. It means they went to one page, saw it, and decided to come in here with an agenda.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Yes he is. He’s over exaggerating one or two opinions and projecting it on to everyone black.

nah, i've seen some of the comments on here and on youtube as well... fulton fans were saying that inoue has never face a slick black boxer from philly.... even myself, i had fulton beating inoue because i got suckered into the whole "slick black fighter from philly"... i was never a fan of inoue, and felt he was gonna have problems with fulton since fulton will be boxing and moving.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah, Spence-Crawford might just be for the #2 spot.

Spence and Crawford are consensus top 4 p4p. Depending on how the win is achieved, the winner will have the best win of any active boxer p4p.

Especially Crawford who will have unified 2 divisions and had 2 belts at LW.

Makes for a really good debate.

[JuniorTorres720]

Damn. I knew I was going to miss this one. I'm going to watch later today. Inoue is a straight up killa and definitely one of the goats of this generation.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Inoue is boxings P4P King bar none. Tim Bradley and Mark Kreigel seem to not be a good mix. While I think Bradley is an excellent analyst, it is quite noticeable to me that Tim doesn’t have much respect for Kreigel as many times when Kreigel speaks you can see Bradley rolling his eyes.

While I like Bradley, he seems to send mixed messages regarding who is P4P king between Inoue and Crawford. In this regard, I feel Bradley is biased and goes out of his way for Crawford, how rightfully is also a P4P top fighter.

Inoue is special and IMO more deserving than Crawford regardless if he beats Spence, which he will. I also feel I’m biased because I feel Crawford is a knucklehead who does as little as possible to promote his fights.

ESPN should find someone besides Kreigel to work with Tes and Bradley. I think Antonio Tarver would be a good choice because Antonio is articulate and knows the games as well as any analyst out there. Kreigel called Haney great. Give me a break, Haney is a good boxer who will never beat Shakur, Tank, or Lopez. Great fighters come around once in a blue moon and Haney is definitely not in that class. Inoue is and after Crawford beats Spence he could be in the conversation but, beating Spence, another good fighter, is not enough. If they were in the same era, Crawford beating, SRL, Hearns, Hagler, would definitely make Crawford one of the greats. But, Crawford has never faced another great fighter and probably never will.

Inoue vs Sanchez( he will move to featherweight) would have been a real treat. That’s a pick ‘‘em fight.

Same with Crawford vs Hearns, Hagler, or SRL. I don’t think Crawford is on any of those 3 level.

You can't compare anyone on Inoue's resume to Hagler, Hearns or SRL either. Faulty comparison. Crawford has fought the guys who would fight him and he stopped almost all of them. Inoue is amazing but so is Bud. If Bud stops Spence he is undisputed and as I said, p4p is split imo. Spence is also a top 5 p4p guy.

Fulton very good but he isn't a top 10 p4p guy. The win is not nearly as impressive as Bud beating Spence. That said, eye test, there is no better current fighter than Inoue. If Bud beats Spence, he and Inoue are interchangable.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

I disagree. Spence and Crawford are consensus top 4 p4p. Depending on how the win is achieved, the winner will have the best win of any active boxer p4p.

Especially Crawford who will have unified 2 divisions and had 2 belts at LW.

Makes for a really good debate.

I think if Bud wins, he and Inoue are interchangeable p4p number 1. Both are obviously the best fighters right now.

[-DSG-]

Black people are sensitive while most have the majority of the belts and probably beat your favorite fighter? Race or Political views ruin all platforms and pages.

There are more white champions than black lol

[TheOneAboveAll]

Dude you tripping.

Am I? Shall we compare credentials? Inoue is a 4-division world champion; unified at Junior Featherweight, undisputed at Bantamweight. He's got an 88% KO rate in 25 fights; 15 of which were world title fights. Crawford and Spence are top shelf fighters themselves, but neither guy has a better resume than Inoue. They are just more popular. The winner of Crawford-Spence has an argument for P4P #1 status, and many fans will give it to them, especially if their win is dominant, but Inoue's claim is a solid as anyone's IMO because he's not just fighting the best guys in his divisions, he's blowing them out.

[The Big Dunn]

I think if Bud wins, he and Inoue are interchangeable p4p number 1. Both are obviously the best fighters right now.

If Bud wins no doubt.

What if Spence wins? Crawford is #1 going into the fight. Even if you have him at #2, that is a damn good win.