Comments Thread For: John Fury on Tyson Facing Ngannou: Muhammad Ali Did The Same Thing When He Was Lineal Champion

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  • Zelda
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    #11
    Ali fought all the best fighters from that era, so no comparison there.

    Tyson needs to fight AJ and Usyk. I accept that AJ doesn't fancy the fight right now but they should try to work it out with Usyk. After that, he can do what he wants.

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    • Boxviewer
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      #12
      It's disrespectful to mention the great Ali and Greedy Belly in the same sentence. All this con artist has offered the boxing world is a hugfest vs Wlad and wins vs 1-trick pony Wilder.

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      • hugh grant
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        #13
        When Ali was around styles were seperated, karate guys thought they were the best, k ung fu thought they were the best, judo thought they were the best, boxers thought they were the best.
        But it's all be done now and isn't ground breaking like it was back then. There was more uncertainty back then, but it's been done to death now.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 07-16-2023, 05:57 AM.

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        • Sammy7861992
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          #14
          Originally posted by TMLT87
          That was dumb too but a major difference is Ali actually fought a bunch of his contemporaries while Fury proclaims himself the best of his era when he has only fought one of the other big 4, and very few halfway decent current opponents outside of that.
          All fury fights is senior citizens and I think the big thing ppl forget it was vitali that dominated the heavyweight division the older Klitschko , he looked after his younger brother and cleared out the division, fury had zero chance against vitali , a big clumsy useless fool is all fury is never understood the hype

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          • Bob
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            #15
            Originally posted by Sammy7861992

            All fury fights is senior citizens and I think the big thing ppl forget it was vitali that dominated the heavyweight division the older Klitschko , he looked after his younger brother and cleared out the division, fury had zero chance against vitali , a big clumsy useless fool is all fury is never understood the hype
            Fury fight's senior citizens? No that would be Aj(4of6)
            Fury's beaten 2 world number 1s for all the belts in theyre own back yards as the underdog.
            Yes I'll grant you Klitschko was 39 but he was world number 1. After Aj got rag dolled by Ruiz, Wilder was number 1 & Fury v Wilder went on to be the greatest trilogy since Bowe Holyfield in the 90s between the top 2 until Usyk stepped up.

            Name anyone else in the division today that beats those 4 fight's?

            Vitali was a monster & in my book beating Lennox until the cuts but why pair Vitali v Fury? It's irrelevant but thinking about it what an amazing fight.

            After Fury destroyed undesputed with Usyk he goes into the Aj duck book, but you can't take away what he achieved or blame him for making a few quid with an easy opponent.

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            • Winky-Wright
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              #16
              Originally posted by Teetotaler69
              When you start doing comparisons like this you know it's bs. It was bs when froid did it and it's still bs with another ped cheat in fury says it.

              Ali didn't hold up a fvkcing division (a mediocre one at best)
              The Fury protection squad always do the same old damage control to justify the wet lettuces they pick as opponents, they were all making out how dangerous Chisora was in his last fight.

              Now there covering base with the Ali story and how the Nigerian UFC blob is in the Guinness book of records.

              Embarrassing.

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              • 57Blues
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                #17
                Wonder if they still love that guy in the U.K. ? Yea i guess they do......

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #18
                  Why wouldn’t he accept a monster payday to do an exhibition?

                  Is he supposed to turn down a great opportunity he has earned?

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                  • Sammy7861992
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bob

                    Fury fight's senior citizens? No that would be Aj(4of6)
                    Fury's beaten 2 world number 1s for all the belts in theyre own back yards as the underdog.
                    Yes I'll grant you Klitschko was 39 but he was world number 1. After Aj got rag dolled by Ruiz, Wilder was number 1 & Fury v Wilder went on to be the greatest trilogy since Bowe Holyfield in the 90s between the top 2 until Usyk stepped up.

                    Name anyone else in the division today that beats those 4 fight's?

                    Vitali was a monster & in my book beating Lennox until the cuts but why pair Vitali v Fury? It's irrelevant but thinking about it what an amazing fight.

                    After Fury destroyed undesputed with Usyk he goes into the Aj duck book, but you can't take away what he achieved or blame him for making a few quid with an easy opponent.
                    Wlad only got no 1 because his brother he kept him up there and retired , and on top of that he looked poor in his fight with Bryant Jennings in the one before , and wlad started to find his range and catch fury in the end of the fight , wilder was getting ******ed in the by Ortiz twice before landing a lucky a punch , Ortiz broke him he will never be the same again, and both were near 40 years of age which in sports terms is a senior citizen, Fury's been hiding from aj for years until he started to show cracks in his armour , an is underrated just because he lost to 2 ppl , but the thing with him he can box and has one punch ko power, and nice techniques, Fury's a big clumsy fool that's been dropped loads and lucky to win alot against senior citizens and has avoided all young guns in form

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      #20
                      No.

                      Muhammad Ali had already become Undisputed Champion at that stage of his career twice, and he had competed in 19 Championship title fights 'Winning 18 Championship fights, 16 of those fights were Championship defenses.

                      During this period here are some of the fighters Muhammad Ali fought: George Foreman, Joe Frazier twice, Ken Norton twice, Sonny Listen twice, Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Young, Joe Bunger twice, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo twice, Ron Lyle, Oscar Bonavena, Jerry Quarry twice, Henry Cooper, Cleveland Williams.

                      Tyson Fury has up until this point in his career had a total of 6 Championship fights 'Winning a total of 5 of those fights, 3 of those fights have been Championship defenses 'Tyson Fury has also not achieved the feat of becoming Undisputed Champion'.

                      During this period here are some of the fighters Tyson Fury has fought, Wladimir Kiltschko, Deontay Wilder three times, Dillian Whyte, Derek Chisora.

                      Note: This is not the same move that Muhammad Ali made back in 1976, and it is not the same type of fight 'Infact Muhammad Ali's opponent, was actually allowed to use kicks and more of their fighting arsenal vs Ali' etc.


                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-16-2023, 09:40 AM.

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