Why didn't Usyk agree to the no rematch clause terms?

[Sharpshootah]

Grown men arguing over other men's money lol, sad state and pretty fruitbaskety. The fight won't happen, both are both to blame and let's just let it die.

[IronDanHamza]

If Usyk loses to Fury he ends up with no belts and he isn’t exactly a big draw even with them.

Having a rematch clause ensures he gets at least one more decent payday.

Joshua no longer has belts for Dillian Whyte. But when he did have them he made sure to force rematch clauses which is why he was able to run it back immediately with both Ruiz and Usyk once they beat him.

But why would you not accept it to get the fight done to have the opportunity to win the all the belts and hold all the cards?

You’re complaining about rematch clauses whilst also saying Usyk should let the fight breakdown by insisting on having one.

Makes no sense.

If they can’t agree on the rematch clause terms then surely the most logical solution is to scrap it.

[IronDanHamza]

Fury agreeing to it and Fury doing it are 2 different things.

Frank Warren also said, multiple times, that a 50/50 split for the undisputed fight had been agreed by both sides.

When did Frank Warren say that? I’ve never heard him say that. Do you have a source?

It’s not different. It’s the same. Both of them said it live on air they agreed to it, that’s all there is to it.

[kafkod]

When did Frank Warren say that? I’ve never heard him say that. Do you have a source?

It’s not different. It’s the same. Both of them said it live on air they agreed to it, that’s all there is to it.

https://www.combatsportsuk.co.uk/frank-warren-tyson-fury-vs-oleksandr-usyk-will-be-a-50-50-split/

[IronDanHamza]

https://www.combatsportsuk.co.uk/fra...a-50-50-split/

Where in that article does Frank Warren say it’s going to be a 50/50 split?

[Smash]

Where in that article does Frank Warren say it’s going to be a 50/50 split?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQZRMYaKO-o

2:30

[Toffee]

I am sorry if it went over your head. It is simple high school mathematics.

Why are you offering a discount with no further business? to make it a single-fight deal if Usyk cannot agree on a rematch split.

No, the second product being discussed goes both ways...one in which Usyk is undisputed and another where Fury is undisputed. And we are discussing it because Usyk wants the rematch, not Fury. Fury is willing to go for a single match and if Usyk wins and is undisputed, he can keep the belts. Why does Usyk have a problem with that?

Basic maths and zero commercial acumen.

The whole point is that Usyk didn't accept 30% for a single fight.

He accepted it in conjunction with a rematch where he would compensated better IF he won.

But that's not what my analogy was showing. l wasn't attempting to achieve actual boxing splits. It was showing that you might take an initial reduction in revenue for later improvement in revenue. Often referred to in business as a loss leader.

If there's no future improvement in revenue then you don't do a loss leader. Because you'd just be reducing the value of your product or service.

It's the difference between high school maths and adults doing business.

[kafkod]

Where in that article does Frank Warren say it’s going to be a 50/50 split?

Click on the link and read the first words you see. They say:

Frank Warren: “Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk Will Be a 50/50 Split”

[IronDanHamza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQZRMYaKO-o

2:30

Is that not implying that that’s concerning a Saudi fight?

The date of that video is August 2022 meaning I assume that’s regarding the terms for initial Saudi date (Dec 22-Feb 23)

That would all change for a UK fight, which would be a lot less revenue and not massive guarantees.

[IronDanHamza]

Click on the link and read the first words you see. They say:

Frank Warren: “Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk Will Be a 50/50 Split”

Ok, but you’ve read the article right?

Where is Frank Warren quoted saying that in the article? I can’t see it.