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  • #11
    Originally posted by Hustle View Post

    Fury isn't fighting twice in 3 months
    Then he fights in January.

    Usyk and his ****** manager just gotta shut their mouths. They pulled out the Fury fight.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by Silence View Post

      Then he fights in January.

      Usyk and his ****** manager just gotta shut their mouths. They pulled out the Fury fight.
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      This is what makes me laugh. Fight was made and ready to go. Usyk pulls out over a 50/50 rematch clause. Flies to Ukraine with no word. Usyk's manager emails Warren that it is nothing to do with Warren or Fury, but Usyk has left. The next day Usyk's team tells all media Fury pulled out, wanted too much, too many demands, etc.

      It is obvious that Usyk pulled out, knew the Saudi money was there, and lied to the media to save face. And the Fury haters are too thickheaded to see it.Obviously no matter what, Usyk was going to find a reason to not fight and wait for the Saudi money. He left the frickin country. Lol.
      Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 07-11-2023, 10:49 AM.
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      • #13
        This boat sailed away , there’s no chance at all he takes the undisputed fight if Ngannou fight gets a huge financial gains …why take harder and real fights with enough money to keep him away from any legit threats ? Worst champion in decades ,he won’t care either . Lol
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-11-2023, 11:04 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

          This is what makes me laugh. Fight was made and ready to go. Usyk pulls out over a 50/50 rematch clause. Flies to Ukraine with no word. Usyk's manager emails Warren that it is nothing to do with Warren or Fury, but Usyk has left. The next day Usyk's team tells all media Fury pulled out, wanted too much, too many demands, etc.

          It is obvious that Usyk pulled out, knew the Saudi money was there, and lied to the media to save face. And the Fury haters are too thickheaded to see it.Obviously no matter what, Usyk was going to find a reason to not fight and wait for the Saudi money. He left the frickin country. Lol.
          This is definition of "being greedy peasant".

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          • #15
            This is the most exhaustively chronicled duck in the modern history of boxing. It will be nothing short of karmic justice if Ngannou drops Fury and then puts him to sleep and ends his career with a rear naked choke.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

              This is what makes me laugh. Fight was made and ready to go. Usyk pulls out over a 50/50 rematch clause. Flies to Ukraine with no word. Usyk's manager emails Warren that it is nothing to do with Warren or Fury, but Usyk has left. The next day Usyk's team tells all media Fury pulled out, wanted too much, too many demands, etc.

              It is obvious that Usyk pulled out, knew the Saudi money was there, and lied to the media to save face. And the Fury haters are too thickheaded to see it.Obviously no matter what, Usyk was going to find a reason to not fight and wait for the Saudi money. He left the frickin country. Lol.
              The fight was made and ready to go. Then Fury moved the goalposts and demanded a 70/30 split in his favour. When Usyk accepted that, Fury moved the goalposts again and demanded 50% in a rematch, even if he lost the first fight. He knew Usyk would never agree to that, which is why he demanded it.

              How do you get out of a fight you don't want? By making demands you know the opponent is going to reject.
              Last edited by kafkod; 07-11-2023, 12:28 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                The fight was made and ready to go. Then Fury moved the goalposts and demanded a 70/30 split in his favour. When Usyk accepted that, Fury moved the goalposts again and demanded 50% in a rematch, even if he lost the first fight. He knew Usyk would never agree to that, which is why he demanded it.

                How do you get out of a fight you don't want? By making demands you know the opponent is going to reject.
                Nope. The fight was basically done and Usyk had agreed to 70/30. Fury didn't want a rematch clause. Usyk then tried to throw in a rematch clause with 70/30. Fury said no, then agreed to 50/50.

                Usyk pulled out and flew to Ukraine and then his team hit Fury in the media. That really shows who is at fault. Usyk was obviously saving face. Had he been serious, he would not have went to the media and attempted to make Fury look like he was making crazy demands.

                If Usyk was confident he could have just fought Fury with no rematch clause and win the belts, then controlled the negotiations for a rematch. That would have been much smarter, Fury would have had far less leverage. Usyk showed weakness and then tried to blame it in Fury.

                I like Usyk, but it is obvious what happened.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

                  Nope. The fight was basically done and Usyk had agreed to 70/30. Fury didn't want a rematch clause. Usyk then tried to throw in a rematch clause with 70/30. Fury said no, then agreed to 50/50.

                  Usyk pulled out and flew to Ukraine and then his team hit Fury in the media. That really shows who is at fault. Usyk was obviously saving face. Had he been serious, he would not have went to the media and attempted to make Fury look like he was making crazy demands.

                  If Usyk was confident he could have just fought Fury with no rematch clause and win the belts, then controlled the negotiations for a rematch. That would have been much smarter, Fury would have had far less leverage. Usyk showed weakness and then tried to blame it in Fury.

                  I like Usyk, but it is obvious what happened.
                  You weren't paying attention. The rematch clause came from Fury's side. Usyk asked for 70/30 to the WINNER. Fury pitched a fit over the rematch clause from his OWN SIDE, and tried to make it 50/50.

                  Riddle me this, Fury superfan.

                  Fury would have gotten 70% on the first fight against the undefeated unified champion.

                  If he won the first fight, would he make more money at 70 to the winner, or his own demand of 50 to the winner?

                  Why did he make an issue of an extra 20% to the LOSER of the first fight?

                  Who's the guy ducking? The guy who took 30 for the first fight, and wants the winner, who would be the undefeated undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, to get compensated appropriately, and who is fighting his mandatory since the unification isn't happening? Or the guy who tried to make an absurd offer, got his bluff called, then threw a fit over the loser of the fight getting a bigger cut than the unified champion gets in fight 1, and who is fighting an MMA guy in a non-title fight?

                  Usyk pulled out because even if he agreed to 50/50, it would have been something else, ring size, glove brand, etc.

                  How many times does Fury have to get caught lying before you wise up? Do you believe him every time he says he's retired too?
                  Last edited by crimsonfalcon07; 07-11-2023, 01:42 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

                    Nope. The fight was basically done and Usyk had agreed to 70/30. Fury didn't want a rematch clause. Usyk then tried to throw in a rematch clause with 70/30. Fury said no, then agreed to 50/50.
                    That's not what happened. The rematch clause was only there because Fury asked for it. Frank Warren admitted that.

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                    • #20
                      Krassyuk is a CLOWN. This article is misrepresenting him too he’s not usyks promoter. Skill challenge is. Why does he keep putting negotiations in the public instead of with fury’s PROMOTER? Cause krassyuk CANT negotiate with another promotion he’s not usyks promoter. One thing is abundantly clear. Fury don’t need usyk to get paid. Usyk on the other hand NEEDS fury. His next best option is wilder. And if wilder wins that’s it he’s screwed. Usyk and his people acting like he’s the top draw top fighter top anything is just laughable. All the fury hate is asinine. Just be reasonable and logical. Krassyuk says “fury should take it or leave it it’s 3x his biggest purse” top rank could say the same in their 70/30 offer to usyk. 30% of a Tyson fury fight for usyk far exceeds his highest payday. 50/50 rematch would have doubled that too. Why didn’t usyk accept? He’s duckingggg right? He must have a greedy belly? The reality is he’s fighting Dubois for much less money than he would’ve made fighting fury which would’ve been a career high payday. Meanwhile fury gonna make quadruple that fighting ngannou. Krassyuk is known for for guiding euro hype jobs who avoid risk and bleed promoters pockets look at loma/ggg/now usyk. I just can’t fathom how anyone who has actually seen fury and usyk fight think usyk wins lol.

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