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  • #21
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    You weren't paying attention. The rematch clause came from Fury's side. Usyk asked for 70/30 to the WINNER. Fury pitched a fit over the rematch clause from his OWN SIDE, and tried to make it 50/50.

    Riddle me this, Fury superfan.

    Fury would have gotten 70% on the first fight against the undefeated unified champion.

    If he won the first fight, would he make more money at 70 to the winner, or his own demand of 50 to the winner?

    Why did he make an issue of an extra 20% to the LOSER of the first fight?

    Who's the guy ducking? The guy who took 30 for the first fight, and wants the winner, who would be the undefeated undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, to get compensated appropriately, and who is fighting his mandatory since the unification isn't happening? Or the guy who tried to make an absurd offer, got his bluff called, then threw a fit over the loser of the fight getting a bigger cut than the unified champion gets in fight 1, and who is fighting an MMA guy in a non-title fight?

    Usyk pulled out because even if he agreed to 50/50, it would have been something else, ring size, glove brand, etc.

    How many times does Fury have to get caught lying before you wise up? Do you believe him every time he says he's retired too?
    Every single thing I have read stated that Usyk wanted the rematch and Fury, who originally wanted the rematch clause, came back with 50/50 after Usyk asked for 70/30 in the clause, which Usyk for some reason scoffed at, and then he went to Ukraine, and then did a media hit on Fury. Then Fury came back and said, forget a rematch clause, let's just fight and see who wins. No response.

    So Usyk could have said yes to 50/50 rematch clause, won the belts. Or he could have agreed to no rematch, and then won, and negotiated the rematch with the belts as leverage.

    I'm a fan of both Fury and Usyk. Fury is a far bigger draw and the lineal champ. He destroyed a top five HW twice over the last couple years. Usyk beat a mentally ill Joshua and does not have KO power at HW. He could UD Fury, though I put the fight 80/20 in Fury's favor because of his size and skillset.

    Fury will make more on the Ngannou fight than against Usyk. UFC fans will buy that fight by the millions to see if Francis can KO Fury. It is honestly a smart move.

    And we all know the Saudi money is coming end of the year, and Fury and Usyk will fight. It is hilarious Fury haters can't see it. But you will buy the fight to pray that Usyk finds a way to beat him. I'm fine with Usyk winning. But I doubt it happens.

    Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 07-11-2023, 02:19 PM.

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    • #22
      Take it or leave it? Well with those options Fury is gonna leave it to take on a guy with a 0-0 record DDDD I feel bad for the smoothbrains who are too proud and insecure to admit their tipsy idol is a gigantic clown and they have to keep coming up with more and more insanely ****** excused for why Fury is fighting a debutant instead of a real boxer xD Sad.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

        Every single thing I have read stated that Usyk wanted the rematch and Fury, who originally wanted the rematch clause, came back with 50/50 after Usyk asked for 70/30 in the clause, which Usyk for some reason scoffed at, and then he went to Ukraine, and then did a media hit on Fury. Then Fury came back and said, forget a rematch clause, let's just fight and see who wins. No response.

        So Usyk could have said yes to 50/50 rematch clause, won the belts. Or he could have agreed to no rematch, and then won, and negotiated the rematch with the belts as leverage.

        I'm a fan of both Fury and Usyk. Fury is a far bigger draw and the lineal champ. He destroyed a top five HW twice over the last couple years. Usyk beat a mentally ill Joshua and does not have KO power at HW. He could UD Fury, though I put the fight 80/20 in Fury's favor because of his size and skillset.

        Fury will make more on the Ngannou fight than against Usyk. UFC fans will buy that fight by the millions to see if Francis can KO Fury. It is honestly a smart move.

        And we all know the Saudi money is coming end of the year, and Fury and Usyk will fight. It is hilarious Fury haters can't see it. But you will buy the fight to pray that Usyk finds a way to beat him. I'm fine with Usyk winning. But I doubt it happens.
        https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...ematch-clause/

        https://boxingjunkie.usatoday.com/20...-rematch-terms

        Usyk has ONLY ever fought with a rematch clause against British champions. The rematch clause against Wilder came from team Fury. Fury has fought with a rematch clause in both of his title reigns.

        So Fury's team makes an offer to Usyk for 70/30, with rematch clause and Usyk accepts, and they get a date and venue set and everything. THEN Fury says no rematch clause at all, even though his team added it in the first place. Just more games to try to screw the fight.

        Then Frank Warren gets him to agree to the rematch clause, and they negotiate the split. Usyk wants the winner to get the same split as the first fight. Fury, for some reason, wants the defeated LOSER to get more money than the Usyk gets for the first fight as the undefeated unified champion.

        Usyk pulls out because he's sick of Fury playing ****** games.

        How many times has Fury screwed over a big fight with ****** games? Every time. He's scuppered an AJ fight on multiple occasions. He had to go to arbitration because he refused to honor his contractual rematch with Wilder, and made the negotiations for all their fights nearly impossible. He screwed negotiations with Ruiz, and made the Whyte negotiations so difficult that the purse bid had to be pushed back several times. That's just in recent times.

        How many fights has Usyk not been able to make for unification? 1. Against Fury. He's taken the short end of the split on numerous occasions, and won every single one of his titles in his opponent's home country. He's only ever not been able to make one fight, and that's against Fury.

        If you can't put 2 and 2 together here, you're way too deep in the Fury love here.
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