Shavers was slightly more skilled and could fight inside and out while Wilder posses better chin and stamina who would win in a 12 round battle ?
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Originally posted by club fighter View PostFYI- Shavers was KO'd by Jerry Quarry.
Wilder would have ended his career.
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Shavers is the only guy that had more soft touches then Wilder to boost his knockout record up .
Stylistically Wilder probably puts his lights out very quickly . Wilder puts a lot of guys out from that era .
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostShavers is the only guy that had more soft touches then Wilder to boost his knockout record up .
Stylistically Wilder probably puts his lights out very quickly . Wilder puts a lot of guys out from that era .El_Mero
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Originally posted by daggum View Post
wasnt quarry a much better fighter than wilder so i dont understand what that proves.
-Never held a belt
-Never was a KO artist
-Was beaten by the top dogs of his era
Wilder
-Former champ
-Undoubtedly a KO artist
-Only beaten by one man
-Height & reach huge advantage
-Durability
I don't see anything "much better" there.
Shavers would have been vaporized early.
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Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
Lol Wilder has only beat a washed up Ortiz. Shavers beat a faded Norton and a few other guys. If Shavers lands on Wilder it is over. Shavers on the other hand usually took a beating before he got stopped.
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Originally posted by club fighter View Post
Quarry
-Never held a belt
-Never was a KO artist
-Was beaten by the top dogs of his era
Wilder
-Former champ
-Undoubtedly a KO artist
-Only beaten by one man
-Height & reach huge advantage
-Durability
I don't see anything "much better" there.
Shavers would have been vaporized early.
i will run down your points.
quarry never held a belt but there was essentially only 1 belt when he fought. if there was 1 belt now, wilder would not have had one. sorry wilder vs stirverne wouldnt have made the cut for a heavyweight title fight back then.
quarry has ko'd 4 top 10 opponents. wilder has ko'd 1. quarry also ko'd 2 guys who made it to the top 10 after losing to quarry while none of the bums wilder ko'd ever made it back to the top 10. so thats 4 to 6 ko wins over good opponents while wilder only has 1. i will take ko'ing proven fighters over ko'ing a lot of bums and unranked fighters so your claim that wilder is undoubtedly a ko artist isnt backed up. its based on him ko'ing weak competition which should be seen as a negative, not a positive. when he upped his level of competition that ko power dramatically fell which happens to every boxer, only difference is wilder continued figthing weak comp for much longer(a bad thing)
yes quarry was beaten by top guys like ali and frazier as well as some of the other top contenders of the time, but he also beat way more contenders than wilder.
quarry has 6 top 10 wins, wilder has 3(2 of them are the same guy so not sure that counts)
quarry has 4 top 10 ko wins. wilder has 2(once again same guy so not sure that counts)
also look at the age of wilders top 10 wins: stiverne(36) and ortiz(39) thats troubling. quarry's wins over patterson(32) lyle(29) shavers(31) mac foster(28) thad spencer(25) and jack bodell(31) show that he was fighting guys in or near their physical primes while wilder was not.Last edited by daggum; 06-30-2023, 04:11 PM.shawnkemp804
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