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  • Pullcounter
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    #41
    Originally posted by Яша
    americans don't like european fighters period. that means brittish to.

    lewis was a great fighter, he never got the respect he deserved from the americans... same with the klitschkos now. and also with kostya tszyu.
    *** u... tszyu was respected in the US and in the UK.

    vitaly is slowly getting respect but wlad has to open up his offense to get respect

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    • street bully
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      #42
      Originally posted by boxasmash
      Aren't Polish the toughest race? Someone I heared.
      Being Polish is not a race.

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      • Benncollinsaad
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        #43
        Originally posted by street bully
        Being Polish is not a race.
        Anyway, they are NOT the toughest race I can assure you!

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        • Mersey
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          #44
          Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
          Anyway, they are NOT the toughest race I can assure you!
          They aren't a race either...

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          • Boxingwizard
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            #45
            That's why Eddie Chambers dominated Alexander Dimitrenko right?

            Why is that Alexander Povetkin STILL refuses to fight Wladimir Klitschko?
            Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-01-2009, 04:15 PM.

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            • Яша
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              #46
              Originally posted by darkstar777
              That's why Eddie Chambers dominated Alexander Dimitrenko right?

              Why is that Alexander Povetkin STILL refuses to fight Wladimir Klitschko?
              Chambers got owned badly by Povetkin who btw got injured last year and isn't just ready yet for Klitschko, since when is a challenger ducking the champion? lmao, Povetkin will fight Klitschko next year.

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              • catalinul
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                #47
                It has nothing to do with race.

                The Klitschkos just have a great work ethic and added with some athleticism and skills equal domination in this crappy era of HWs.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Яша
                  Chambers got owned badly by Povetkin who btw got injured last year and isn't just ready yet for Klitschko, since when is a challenger ducking the champion? lmao, Povetkin will fight Klitschko next year.
                  He didn't get owned badly, Chambers won the first four rounds, until he faded late in the fight for some reason. But Chambers improved significantly since his loss to Povetkin and I assure you he would beat him in a rematch. Face it Alexander Povetkin is not that good and is overrated because of his olympic credentials. That win was a straight up fluke.

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                  • Яша
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by darkstar777
                    He didn't get owned badly, Chambers won the first four rounds, until he faded late in the fight for some reason. But Chambers improved significantly since his loss to Povetkin and I assure you he would beat him in a rematch. Face it Alexander Povetkin is not that good and is overrated because of his olympic credentials. That win was a straight up fluke.
                    Fluke huh? Povetkin beat Chambers convincingley enough to show it wasn't a fluke. enough with your bull**** excuses. Povetkin OWNED Chambers that night. you are just a Russian HATING american bastard that will never give respect to a Russian fighter. funny you say Povetkin is overrated what does that make Chambers the man Povetkin beat? lol, chambers is overrated if anything and will get smoked by Wlad in a few rounds i give him 8 at most. chambers is to weak and small for heavyweight. Povetkin beat Chambers and he would do it again if they met.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Яша
                      Fluke huh? Povetkin beat Chambers convincingley enough to show it wasn't a fluke. enough with your bull**** excuses. Povetkin OWNED Chambers that night. you are just a Russian HATING american bastard that will never give respect to a Russian fighter. funny you say Povetkin is overrated what does that make Chambers the man Povetkin beat? lol, chambers is overrated if anything and will get smoked by Wlad in a few rounds i give him 8 at most. chambers is to weak and small for heavyweight. Povetkin beat Chambers and he would do it again if they met.
                      I don't hate Russians, I hate bias Russian bastards who think Europeans are too good compared to the rest of the heavyweights. Besides the Klitschko brothers, the rest Ukrainian/Russian heavyweights are not all that special. Here I'll break it down for you.

                      Nikolai Valuev - 7'0 average boxer, barley beat Evander Holyfield
                      Ruslan Chagaev - An above average boxer, barley beat John Ruiz, had lackluster performances against C level boxers
                      Sergey Lyakhovich - beaten by Shannon Briggs
                      Oleg Maskaev - Old, journey man level at best
                      Sultan Ibragimov - decent boxer, but couldn't get by Tim Austin.
                      Alexander Povetkin - getting too much fame by his Olympic credentials when he's not that good to begin with.

                      There is a reason why critics say the heavyweight division is weak, and it's not just the decline in American heavyweights.
                      Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-01-2009, 04:31 PM.

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