Why Ukrainians and Russians dominate the hw division

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  • Яша
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    #31
    Originally posted by Champ Kind
    americans didn't like lewis either.

    lewis wasn't eastern european/russian/ukrainian.

    it's their styles. people don't like to see guys with huge size advantage just jab and keep their opponents away.
    americans don't like european fighters period. that means brittish to.

    lewis was a great fighter, he never got the respect he deserved from the americans... same with the klitschkos now. and also with kostya tszyu.

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    • Benncollinsaad
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      #32
      Originally posted by Champ Kind
      los angeles is not on the eastern seaboard.

      believe me a lot of non-ukrainians/russians were cheering vitali on.

      it's because he put on a good show.
      Natalie Wood was from LA, wasnt she? And she was of Russian origin.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Champ Kind
        americans didn't like lewis either.

        lewis wasn't eastern european/russian/ukrainian.

        it's their styles. people don't like to see guys with huge size advantage just jab and keep their opponents away.
        ^^^^^^^^^This

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          #34
          Originally posted by Яша
          americans don't like european fighters period. that means brittish to.

          lewis was a great fighter, he never got the respect he deserved from the americans... same with the klitschkos now. and also with kostya tszyu.
          people respected kostya.

          he just wasn't a big star but you won't find many americans who don't respect kostya.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Champ Kind
            people respected kostya.

            he just wasn't a big star but you won't find many americans who don't respect kostya.
            Hm. And why was everyone cheering for Urkal then?? I've seen the fight, each time Urkal landed a punch half the arena exploded! And Urkal is a Turkish-German ******!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Carnivore
              Why not be honest about it?

              You don't like any white fighters, it has nothing to do with style. You don't even like the British white boxers like Calzaghe, Hatton, Cleverly, Woods, etc.

              I wish people could see past race.
              You talk so much rubbish Tunney just because I don’t like the eastern euro style doesn’t mean I am a racist. I like Katsidis and I also like guys like Diaz and JMM, its just unfortunate that all the guys you like (eastern fighters) fight mostly in the style I don’t like its nothing to do with skin colour. I never liked Lewis because of his style.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
                Natalie Wood was from LA, wasnt she? And she was of Russian origin.
                american water ko1 russian natalie wood

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                • Phirsole
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                  #38
                  Most of the east European races are a little smaller than the western races, by average. One of the talles men of the world is a Mongol, who are not known for their size. Africa holds Pygmies (very small) as well as Massai (very tall). The US is a melting pot of almost every European, Slavish, African, and Asian races of the planet. They probably have the greatest variety of peoples of the world.

                  I don't think it has racial reasons, and the TS should be aware that he'd get flamed for it.


                  The dominance of east European boxers, esp. in HW, has different reasons.

                  The Klitschkos are two guys, who
                  - are very intelligent and use their brain in & out of the ring
                  - are physically gifted with great size (6'6''+ size) and power
                  - take their job seriously and train all year long, not only for 2-3 events a year

                  As much as it pains me to say so, but I know only of a hand full of fighters who keep their bodies as keen as the Klitschkos - all year long. David Haye is one of them. Not all Russian fighters have this determination, but the percentage might be higher than with the US fighters.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
                    Hm. And why was everyone cheering for Urkal then?? I've seen the fight, each time Urkal landed a punch half the arena exploded! And Urkal is a Turkish-German ******!
                    i don't even remember where that fight was held nor the crowd's reaction really.

                    maybe more germans than aussies in the crowd?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Champ Kind
                      i don't even remember where that fight was held nor the crowd's reaction really.

                      maybe more germans than aussies in the crowd?
                      It was in Uncasville, Connecticut. I don't think these were germans, they looked pretty dark skinned some of them. I believe a few were actually blacks. Maybe they were ******s, who knows.

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