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  • famicommander
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    #11
    Originally posted by 15round
    Than why has he ranked so highly the last five years? Anyone who makes the statement "absolute horrible" to describe him has no boxing knowledge.
    I watched him fight Junior Fa, Alex Leapai, Anthony Joshua, and Joe Joyce.

    He sucks a giant pile of monkey ass.

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    • TMLT87
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      #12
      I guess Ruiz. His win over AJ was better than any of Wilders wins, and he did on paper beat Ortiz too although in reality it was contentious and Ortiz was 79 instead of a spry 56 like when Wilder beat him.

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        #13
        Originally posted by famicommander
        Ruiz's best wins:
        Joshua
        Arreola
        Ortiz
        Liakhovich
        Dimitrenko
        Vargas
        Johnson

        Wilder's best wins:
        Stiverne
        Ortiz
        Ortiz
        Stiverne
        Arreola
        Liakhovich
        Breazeale
        Duhaupas
        Szpilka
        Helenius
        Washington
        Scott
        Molina

        Ruiz's losses:
        Joshua
        Parker

        Wilder's losses:
        Fury
        Fury

        Draws:
        Wilder vs Fury

        Ruiz has one really good win and that's about it. Arreola got stopped by Wilder in 2016 and then dropped Ruiz and took him the distance in 2021. Wilder stopped Ortiz in 2018 and 2019, Ruiz struggled badly with him in 2022. Wilder stopped Liakhovich in 1 round in 2013, Ruiz went the distance with him in 2014.

        Wilder's resume isn't that good either but it's lightyears ahead of Ruiz's.
        Lmfao bro both their resumes are trash. Ruiz has the better wins

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        • hugh grant
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          #14
          Ruiz is better. Wilder getting too credit for being being knocked out by fury and Ruiz beat josh and wilder playing catch up, we want to see if wilder can.
          Last edited by hugh grant; 06-29-2023, 03:01 AM.

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          • 15round
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            #15
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Ruiz is better. Wilder getting too credit for being being knocked out by fury
            It has been said, Wilder's most impressive wins are his losses to Fury.

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            • Rys
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              #16
              Originally posted by TMLT87
              I guess Ruiz. His win over AJ was better than any of Wilders wins, and he did on paper beat Ortiz too although in reality it was contentious and Ortiz was 79 instead of a spry 56 like when Wilder beat him.

              But there is a valid argument that Ruiz actually beat Parker too.

              I think it's not even debatable that Ruiz's resume is far better than Wilder's. Wilder has always been a protected champion, beating up tomato cans and his fighting Fury was more like a miscalculation on his otherwise very protective management team than bravery or building a legacy or whatever. They simply thought Fury would be easy pickings and they got it wrong, that's all there is to the most impressive part of Wilder's resume.

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              • hugh grant
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                #17
                Originally posted by 15round

                It has been said, Wilder's most impressive wins are his losses to Fury.
                Fury is good so no shame in.losing to fury. But my only problem with wilder is, is that I don't think Ruiz would lose to Fury by ko like wilder did.
                So I need to put wilder below Ruiz accordingly, and Ruiz beat josh. Wilder beats Josh then I put wilder above Ruiz and Josh, it's that simple. Or better stll, wilder can beat Ruiz himself, what's wilder waiting for?
                Last edited by hugh grant; 06-29-2023, 04:39 AM.

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                • Toffee
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                  #18
                  Ruiz has comfortably the best win. There's a massive gap between that and anything on Wilder's resume.

                  As for overall resume - you can't discount title defences. Wilder didn't exactly get assigned tough mandatories, but they're still all title defences.

                  Wilder is an odd fighter. We already know how the fight goes. Ruiz is the much better boxer and comfortably outboxes him. Wilder loses rounds and hopes he can land one shot. If he doesn't, then he loses by a wide decision.

                  It's hard to think much of someone who only has a puncher's chance in any top level fight. But he does make a lot of his only weapon.
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