Comments Thread For: Wilder Says 'Short, Fat, T-Rex-Armed' Ruiz Will Be Nonexistent If He Passes On Fight

[Bronx2245]

And PBC fighter Charles Martin is on a last minute replacement on a ESPN card. Charles suddenly made the fight interesting to watch.

And I don't know why PBC keeps ignoring their guys who still have something left. They won't do Frank Sanchez vs Charles Martin. Do you know that Frank Sanchez's last cherry was already beat by Martin four years ago by TKO?

He's 37! We'll see what he has left on Saturday!

[daggum]

One win does not a resume make. Wilder also beat a reigning titlist in Stiverne (ranked in the top 4 by TRBB and Ring), then beat him in 1 round in the rematch. Meanwhile, Wilder's only losses were to Fury in lineal title fights while Ruiz got beat by bum ass Joe Parker for a vacant belt that was stripped from Fury.

And let's go even deeper than Stivene/Joshua and the names in common (Arreola/Ortiz/Liakhovich). Who's next best for Andy? Dimitrenko? Kevin Johnson? Devin Vargas? Wilder's resume is pretty thin but Breazeale, Szpilka, Duhaupas, Washington, and even old man Helenius are better than freaking Vargas and Johnson.

I get it, heavyweight is a trash division. Not one guy in the division has 5 good wins. But to say that Ruiz has the better resume is nuts. He easily could've lost that Ortiz fight and Ortiz was so shot he could barely stand up. Boxing Scene scored it 113-112 Ortiz despite 3 knockdowns. And this is a full 5 years after Wilder knocked him out the first time.

yeah and how did stirverne become champ...oh by beating arreola. not impressive sorry. arreola was ranked #9 and stirverne was unranked. after stirverne beat arreola he leaps into the top 5? makes no sense. parker is clearly much better than stirverne and most people had ruiz winning that figth anyway. face it. ruiz has a great win over joshua while wilder has zero great wins. both guys have a couple ok wins but as of right now ruiz is much better.

[famicommander]

I never said Ruiz had a better or worse resume. I said that it's ****** to discount him stopping the world heavyweight champion.

I didn't discount it, I just said Ruiz has done precisely nothing outside of it and he may as well not even have showed up to the rematch.

There's no escaping the fact that Ruiz's 2nd and 3rd best wins are against the ghosts of Ortiz and Arreola, and he arguably lost the Ortiz fight and got dropped by Arreola.

[famicommander]

yeah and how did stirverne become champ...oh by beating arreola. not impressive sorry. arreola was ranked #9 and stirverne was unranked. after stirverne beat arreola he leaps into the top 5? makes no sense. parker is clearly much better than stirverne and most people had ruiz winning that figth anyway. face it. ruiz has a great win over joshua while wilder has zero great wins. both guys have a couple ok wins but as of right now ruiz is much better.

That same Arreola was Ruiz's 2nd best win, except it was 5 years after Wilder iced him and Arreola put Ruiz on his ass.

[_Rexy_]

I didn't discount it, I just said Ruiz has done precisely nothing outside of it and he may as well not even have showed up to the rematch.

There's no escaping the fact that Ruiz's 2nd and 3rd best wins are against the ghosts of Ortiz and Arreola, and he arguably lost the Ortiz fight and got dropped by Arreola.

But aren’t those also Wilders best wins?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder being Fury`s victim doesn`t mean he is A side against Ruiz.

Ruiz beating Joshua is a better victory than anything Wilder has done.

[Zelda]

Team Wilder is currently in London to discuss stuff with the Saudis. Them and Eddie and perhaps Frank as well will be talking tonight and tomorrow. If they agree to the terms, Wilder could care less about the eliminator and fight another guy and go for Joshua in Dec/Jan. If he wins, he can still fight Fury or Usyk. As per Gareth Davies, Wilder may even sign with the Saudis so his next few big fights would be guaranteed. Even if he loses but makes a good account of himself, he would still have options to fight a fight the magnitude of Whyte or Ruiz or Joyce vs Zhang.

As for Andy, let him fight the next guy his father can get him at 50-50

[JakeTheBoxer]

Both guys are only big if you put Joshua, Fury or Usyk against them. they should stop living in a fantasy world.

[daggum]

But aren’t those also Wilders best wins?

yeah but wilder beat the prime versions of ortiz and arreola if there are such things. i guess thats what they are saying? stunning desperation

[maguirre]

He's 37! We'll see what he has left on Saturday!

I understand. I was asking why PBC rising hype job Frank Sanchez, the dancer, chose to fight Daniel Martz who was a Martin leftover many times over in his last fight, instead of Charles Martin himself? But you don't have to answer brah. I know why.