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  • #31
    Let's admit Spence is not Postol. Let's get that thing clear.
    Postol in the TC fight was just posing, circling around, and not punching, afraid to get countered.
    Crawford is hot tempered. He gets violently mad when he gets hit and does all he can to strike back.

    So it's not what you want. It's how Spence would tackle Crawford. I'm not seeing Postol in this story.
    Don't know why you think he is. It's as far-fetched as the square ring becoming round at the end of the fight.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by rick.gen View Post
      Let's admit Spence is not Postol. Let's get that thing clear.
      Postol in the TC fight was just posing, circling around, and not punching, afraid to get countered.
      Crawford is hot tempered. He gets violently mad when he gets hit and does all he can to strike back.

      So it's not what you want. It's how Spence would tackle Crawford. I'm not seeing Postol in this story.
      Don't know why you think he is. It's as far-fetched as the square ring becoming round at the end of the fight.
      The point is, most agree that Crawford is not a slugger. He's a counter puncher.

      Most real fans agree, his chin is in question.

      Combine those and you got a situation where it's possible he does what you see in that GIF. And if he does, don't come back here calling him a coward.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post

        Of course Crawford will engage. Soon as he gets hit that will be his first instinct

        He can't help it. It's in his blood
        He can help it. It took 8 rounds for him to engage Porter.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

          He can help it. It took 8 rounds for him to engage Porter.
          That's not true. Whenever Porter would land clean, what do you think Bud did?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post

            That's not true. Whenever Porter would land clean, what do you think Bud did?
            You need to watch the fight again.

            Rounds 1 - 6, Porter would sneak a shot in, Crawford would whiff a check hook. Lather-rinse-repeat.

            Rounds 6 - 7, between rounds you saw BoMac screaming at Crawford to calm down because Crawford was getting frustrated at whiffing punches.

            It wasn't until Round 7 that Crawford started actually doing something other than waiting on counters. And even then he didn't really "Engage", he just started putting more punches together to lure Porter into the trap that eventually got him dropped. He only really engaged after Porter got frustrated and lost focus, because he knew Porter wasn't in the right mind and he was ripe for taking him out.

            Engage means you're actively throwing on a guy, moving forward to do damage. Crawford didn't do that against Benavidez, Kavaliauskas, Porter OR Brook until the actual stoppage sequence, and he barely did it against Avanesyan. Go back and watch them dude, that's how he fights!

            The ONLY opponent where he was the active aggressor was Jeff Horn and even then it took him 4 rounds to feel him out first.
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            • #36
              I don't see why the reaction from NSB would be any different for Crawford.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post
                I don't see why the reaction from NSB would be any different for Crawford.
                Remember, NSB crowned him #1 P4P for beating Jeff Horn. And has maintained that he's #1 P4P despite who he fought.

                So yes, there's a different standard for Crawford than for everyone else. I mean FFS, while Crawford was getting asterisk wins and not going after titles, Canelo was winning belts in multiple divisions, Inoue was unifying divisions, Baby Charlo unified a division, Devin Haney unified a division, Usyk unified two divisions, Spence unified 3 belts in one division, etc. Yet none of them got their chops.

                That's why I'm excited. Because if Crawford performs like Chukhadzian, I want to see if NSB will call Crawford a coward like they did Chukhadzhian. OR will they say that BECAUSE Crawford fought like that, he's elite? Which means Chukhadzhian deserves his credit.

                Like no matter what, if Crawford doesn't fully engage and go to war, it's going to expose a lot of hypocrisy around here. And it's their fault for putting the guy on a pedestal that wasn't yet earned.

                'Eye Test'
                Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 06-30-2023, 09:59 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

                  The point is, most agree that Crawford is not a slugger. He's a counter puncher.

                  Most real fans agree, his chin is in question.

                  Combine those and you got a situation where it's possible he does what you see in that GIF. And if he does, don't come back here calling him a coward.
                  You're talking nonsense here. "He's a counter puncher, not a slugger." What's wrong with that?
                  Isn't that what this sport is all about, hit and not get hit, according to "real" fans like you? I'm not getting it.
                  If he did engage and slug, don't come back and cry, "Waaa, he got hit way too much, he's exposed!"
                  Too much ado about nothing.

                  You're making too much assumptions like everyone is a Crawford fan.
                  He did use his bike not only in the Postol fight, but in some of the rounds like in the Beltran and Molina fights.
                  Yeah, a virtual nobody like Molina made him run, got him cornered, but Bud hugged him every time.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by rick.gen View Post

                    You're talking nonsense here. "He's a counter puncher, not a slugger." What's wrong with that?
                    Isn't that what this sport is all about, hit and not get hit, according to "real" fans like you? I'm not getting it.
                    You didn't read the title. I WANT HIM TO FIGHT LIKE THAT. But I'm saying, if he does, Spence is likely going to handle him, because the only ones to give Spence remotely any trouble are ones that go to him.


                    Originally posted by rick.gen View Post
                    You're making too much assumptions like everyone is a Crawford fan.
                    He did use his bike not only in the Postol fight, but in some of the rounds like in the Beltran and Molina fights.
                    Yeah, a virtual nobody like Molina made him run, got him cornered, but Bud hugged him every time.
                    Correct. And all I'm saying is, IF CRAWFORD DOES THAT AGAINST SPENCE, I WANT NSB TO BE CONSISTENT!

                    When Devin Haney does it, he's called "Huggies". Okay, so if Crawford does that, I expect Crawford to get called out for "hugging" too.

                    When Floyd did it (average 1.5 times a round compared to Clinchko's 13 times per round against PEDvetkin), Floyd was blamed for being the reason the Pacquiao fight was boring, and Floyd was called a coward. Okay, so if Crawford does that, I expect Crawford to get called a coward too.

                    When Chukhadzian rotated Boots for 12 rounds and was never hurt, NSB called him a coward and a runner. Okay, so if Crawford does that (like he did against Postol), I expect Crawford to get called a coward and a runner too.

                    When Sandor Martin did nothing but feint for 8 rounds against a befuddled Mikey, NSB said he was a stinker (who would go on to embarrass Teofimo and get robbed). Okay, so if Crawford does that (like he did against Postol), I expect him to get called a stinker too.

                    When Zorrilla stunk up the joint against a flat-footed Prograis, NSB accused him of being the problem. Okay, so if Crawford does that, I expect Crawford to stop getting called #1P4P, etc.

                    I want NSB to be CONSISTENT. The only way to expose that lack of consistency around here is for Crawford to NOT engage, so we can see the posts and expose those people.
                    Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 06-30-2023, 10:35 AM.

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                    • #40
                      If he could still do it; Then perhaps he would but he is 35 years old at the present and those wheels of his have a lot of mileage, wear and tear on them now. He no longer has the same cardio conditioning of a 28 year old; To move for twelve rounds without engaging and exchanging punches with Spence.
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