I want Crawford to fight Spence like he fought Viktor Postol

[-Kev-]

We also need to remember:

Fresh off a major car crash that's crippled other men like Magnum T.A., where his body was ejected from the vehicle, this dude came back and gave Danny Swift a boxing lesson, eating No Look Hooks the whole time and STILL banked 8 rounds. To the point Angel had no excuses and just blamed his son; no robbery screamed. When's the last time you saw such a thing? And Spence's body assault was brutal - I had respeck for Swift for not going down.

Dude goes back in there and literally breaks Yordenis Ugas down like I've never seen a man broken down before. The same Ugas that Porter mightily struggled with, the same Ugas that retired Manny Pacquiao. And that was after a year-and-a-half layoff with no "get back" fight.

If anything, it feels like Spence's style is what preserves him. He starts out slow on purpose, no wasted energy, no wasted movement, targeted body attacks every so often, then he starts ramping up in the late rounds and if needed, he'll go to war and walk you down with more body work. Porter was landing flush on the chin all night long and never once moved the guy, never once hurt him.

And...only one of these two directly called out the other in the ring.

Even prime Spence defense is shaky though. He also took more unnecessary punches vs Ugas. Luckily Ugas was coming in with only 12 KO’s in 27 wins.

Spence sometimes just seems like he loses focus for a few seconds. And that thing he did with the mouthpiece, that wasn’t the first time. He did it versus DSG, even turned around like a dog trying to bite its tail, all while the round was live. That time, DSG didn’t punch him unlike Ugas did.

Spence has to stay focused vs Crawford. He can’t allow Buf to catch him as bad as he has gotten caught before. Crawford is faster, and punches harder than Porter, DSG, Ugas, Brook.

I think Spence is going to win, but he can’t come at Crawford with that shotty defense and lack of focus he tends to have.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Even prime Spence defense is shaky though. He also took more unnecessary punches vs Ugas. Luckily Ugas was coming in with only 12 KO’s in 27 wins.

Spence sometimes just seems like he loses focus for a few seconds. And that thing he did with the mouthpiece, that wasn’t the first time. He did it versus DSG, even turned around like a dog trying to bite its tail, all while the round was live. That time, DSG didn’t punch him unlike Ugas did.

Spence has to stay focused vs Crawford. He can’t allow Buf to catch him as bad as he has gotten caught before. Crawford is faster, and punches harder than Porter, DSG, Ugas, Brook.

I think Spence is going to win, but he can’t come at Crawford with that shotty defense and lack of focus he tends to have.

You're not wrong, but what's interesting is, even when he gets hit, he's never been on Bambi legs. He gets briefly stunned but he has excellent recovery for some reason.

Lartey did the most to him and still got dealt with.

Also, there's a reason Floyd flat out refused to fight him, right to his face. And it's that infamous sparring session where Spence gave him the business.

[-Kev-]

You're not wrong, but what's interesting is, even when he gets hit, he's never been on Bambi legs. He gets briefly stunned but he has excellent recovery for some reason.

Lartey did the most to him and still got dealt with.

Also, there's a reason Floyd flat out refused to fight him, right to his face. And it's that infamous sparring session where Spence gave him the business.

Do you have footage of this sparring session?

That fight made no sense. Spence in 2013 wasn’t well known. Guerrero and Canelo were top 10 P4P fighters.

2014 he fought Maidana twice, who upset Berto.

2015 he fought Pacquiao, the #2 ranked welterweight and a top 10 P4P fighter.

2016, Spence finally got his first win over a name opponent, Algieri.

2017 Mayweather retired with Berto and McGregor. Spence beat his best opponent, Kell Brook.

The fight never made any sense. Mayweather was at the tail end of his career, Spence was just getting some baby wins in.

[Roadblock]

Do you have footage of this sparring session?

That fight made no sense. Spence in 2013 wasn’t well known. Guerrero and Canelo were top 10 P4P fighters.

2014 he fought Maidana twice, who upset Berto.

2015 he fought Pacquiao, the #2 ranked welterweight and a top 10 P4P fighter.

2016, Spence finally got his first win over a name opponent, Algieri.

2017 Mayweather retired with Berto and McGregor. Spence beat his best opponent, Kell Brook.

The fight never made any sense. Mayweather was at the tail end of his career, Spence was just getting some baby wins in.

I thought they sparred a few times and Errol had the best of one session, I heard they also did a continuous 20/30 minute spar no breaks, I,ll tell you how it works with class up and comers they try to get these types of sparing, they are in with a great and they want to show the world and prove themselves, they often also in good shape, its also often near the end of camp for the star and many times its in flat period right at the end of the grind, take notice when stories come out about the top guys having a tough sparing session, take note of when in camp it is, these things matter if youre trying to establish some kind of win scenario from it.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Do you have footage of this sparring session?

That fight made no sense. Spence in 2013 wasn’t well known. Guerrero and Canelo were top 10 P4P fighters.

2014 he fought Maidana twice, who upset Berto.

2015 he fought Pacquiao, the #2 ranked welterweight and a top 10 P4P fighter.

2016, Spence finally got his first win over a name opponent, Algieri.

2017 Mayweather retired with Berto and McGregor. Spence beat his best opponent, Kell Brook.

The fight never made any sense. Mayweather was at the tail end of his career, Spence was just getting some baby wins in.

Nobody has footage, but Floyd never denied it. Basically said that Spence gave him really good work. He's never said that about any other sparring partner, even Spadafora.

Fight didn't make business sense, but then neither did Pac/Horn. Yet it became an important fight in welterweight history, because that fight is arguably the only reason Crawford holds a belt or would ever do.

If Floyd had fought Spence and struggled, does a rematch and gets beat, it would have seriously altered history.

[-Kev-]

Nobody has footage, but Floyd never denied it. Basically said that Spence gave him really good work. He's never said that about any other sparring partner, even Spadafora.

Fight didn't make business sense, but then neither did Pac/Horn. Yet it became an important fight in welterweight history, because that fight is arguably the only reason Crawford holds a belt or would ever do.

If Floyd had fought Spence and struggled, does a rematch and gets beat, it would have seriously altered history.

Yeah Pac-Horn was a straight robbery. Horn got beat up to the point where the fight was going to get stopped. And you know, Horn was supposed to be an easy win for Pac, which I thought it was. But it backfired because it was in Australia.

It is an interesting what-if scenario, but it just wasn’t going to happen, ever. And it had nothing to do with Spence’s potential or any sparring match. He just wasn’t there yet. By Mayweather’s retirement, Spence’s best wins were Algieri and Brook. Really no big wins. Like for example Maidana having upset Broner. No eye-catching wins, no big fanbase. At the end of 2013 (the sparring match year), Spence was 9-0.

Also from 2013 to 2017, Mayweather’s last pro years, he was 36-40 years old. Super old for a boxer.

[F l i c k e r]

He fights like that, he will go behind on the cards early. Then will have to play catch up with a Spence that has already got his engine going.

spence typically loses early rounds but if Crawford goes southpaw early and does that? Spence will win the rounds he usually gives away.

Also, Spence has an excellent jab and output. So that kind of start may work against a tentative, waiting Postol but it won’t work against a Spence who throws punches and keeps pressure on whether you are throwing or not.

[F l i c k e r]

Even prime Spence defense is shaky though. He also took more unnecessary punches vs Ugas. Luckily Ugas was coming in with only 12 KO’s in 27 wins.

Spence sometimes just seems like he loses focus for a few seconds. And that thing he did with the mouthpiece, that wasn’t the first time. He did it versus DSG, even turned around like a dog trying to bite its tail, all while the round was live. That time, DSG didn’t punch him unlike Ugas did.

Spence has to stay focused vs Crawford. He can’t allow Buf to catch him as bad as he has gotten caught before. Crawford is faster, and punches harder than Porter, DSG, Ugas, Brook.

I think Spence is going to win, but he can’t come at Crawford with that shotty defense and lack of focus he tends to have.

Truth.

i do think that over sparring was the cause for that. Considering the amount of time without real fights, he was probably doing a lot of that in training, where you might lose a mouthpiece and they stop without a ref to let you grab it.

a by product of being out 1 year between fights likely.

hopefully it won’t show itself in the Crawford fight. Spence gets hit with one of those Bombs while not looking? He might get Ko’d or dropped; standing 8 count.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Since Chollo Vista thinks Crawford will engage (and I don't).

[Chollo Vista]

Since Chollo Vista thinks Crawford will engage (and I don't).

Of course Crawford will engage. Soon as he gets hit that will be his first instinct

He can't help it. It's in his blood