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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    #11
    This suggests a close fight that Loma should have won or a draw at best for Haney. Honestly, without the behavior of the Top Rank guys, I would be annoyed but not feeling the robbery talk. But calling Haney the winner outright before the fight, along with spending all the time making a justification for why Haney's supposed to win before the fight, just seems wrong when a large majority of experts called it for Loma. Even the Ring article about it called it 13 Loma, 4 Haney, and 1 draw. And one of the Haney guys subscribes to the false view that you have win wide margins to get the win.

    "It was considered a close contest, but I believe we had the right verdict at the end of the fight. I believe when you challenge for a world title you have to rip the championship away from the champion."

    That's the sort of nonsense that permits corruption.

    They were just very blatant that they were expecting Haney to win before the fight. Seems very suspect.

    Catterall and Barroso were worse robberies. But that doesn't mean close fights like this one can't be.

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    • garfios
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      #12
      It wasn't a robbery. The problem I have is the judge that score the 10 round for haney, and the fact that's always the house fighter who gets the benefit of the doubt. They never make the "mistake" of scoring for the visiting fighter.

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        #13
        Originally posted by garfios
        It wasn't a robbery. The problem I have is the judge that score the 10 round for haney, and the fact that's always the house fighter who gets the benefit of the doubt. They never make the "mistake" of scoring for the visiting fighter.
        Which should make the fact that Usyk won every one of his titles on the road even more worthy of respect. Crazy to me that people aren't willing to give him any credit.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #14
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Unfortunately, boxing results are based on only 3 people’s opinions. These three people are known well before the fight. Their names are made public, the announcement is public. Absolutely nothing stops them from having “friendly” chats through text or emails with people with rich people.

          This is nothing new. In boxing, it’s very old and very common.

          Lomachenko got robbed. It doesn’t matter if the fight was supposedly close. Wins aren’t given to team that scored 2 touchdowns vs the team that scored 2 touchdowns +1 point for the field goal. If that were to ever happen, the uproar would cause a civil war between those two states.

          But in boxing, we’re supposed to just take the robberies and smile because “it was close”.
          You know what the word "close" means, right?

          If the fight was close then it means that there's a possibility either man won I.e This fight.

          If there's an argument for either man winning then it's not a robbery, is it?

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          • Lomadeaux
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            #15
            Originally posted by -Kev-

            You think it’s mentally deranged to want an overhaul in the scoring of fights and have more oversight?

            So basically, you think there has never been any robberies in boxing? Boxing scoring system is fine? Nothing needs to be changed?
            He doesn't understand the sport.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #16
              Originally posted by dannnnn
              You know, for all this talk of "it could have gone either way" I've noticed awfully few people actually scored it for Haney.
              You'll also notice that there's not one wide card from any members of the media either, the majority of which are 115-113.

              What do you think that might mean?
              Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-08-2023, 04:07 PM.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #17
                Originally posted by Lomadeaux

                He doesn't understand the sport.
                Are you actually aware what your data suggests? I don't think you do

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                • -Kev-
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  You know what the word "close" means, right?

                  If the fight was close then it means that there's a possibility either man won I.e This fight.

                  If there's an argument for either man winning then it's not a robbery, is it?
                  Close fight doesn’t only mean the other fighter could have won. Why are you making up definitions for boxing?

                  A close fight can also be a clear win. i.e. the saying “close but clear win”.

                  Lomachenko was robbed. Most people agree with that. I get your boy Haney lost and you’re mad at that, so you’ve been working overtime defending him for weeks now.

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                  • ColdBlooded
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    You know what the word "close" means, right?

                    If the fight was close then it means that there's a possibility either man won I.e This fight.

                    If there's an argument for either man winning then it's not a robbery, is it?
                    The problem is that there is no argument for Haney winning because there aren't 7 rounds that can be reasonably scored for him.

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                    • Toffee
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by dannnnn
                      You know, for all this talk of "it could have gone either way" I've noticed awfully few people actually scored it for Haney.
                      People who agree with a result don't tend to be as active as people who disagree.

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