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i think people put so much belief in him that they simply cant admit that they were duped/conned into thinking he was something he wasnt. for example andy ruiz has a much better resume than wilder...do people care about him...no not in the slightest. he beat joshua who wilder ducked and who is 10 times better than anyone on wilders resume. he beat ortiz who is wilders best win, and he had a very debatable loss to parker who was in the top 5. the difference between wilder and ruiz is ruiz wasnt subject to the hypejob treatment. if you just removed the names and looked at resumes...no contest who is better. if you cloud it with nonsense well then who knows!
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is it easier to knock out good or bad fighters? essentially you are saying its all the same? thats not very reasonable. hes had 6 fights with top 10 opponents and only scored 2 ko's against the same guy. thats a 33 percent ko ratio. doesnt sound so devastating after all...the difference between wilder and most other "top guys" is that those top guys continue to fight good opposition so their ko rate inevitably goes down while wilders stays high because he continues to fight weak opposition. that should be seen as a bad thing though, not a good thing.Last edited by daggum; 06-02-2023, 04:37 PM.Comment
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You are flat out ******. They were ranked when Wilder fought them. Their current rankings are irrelevant unless he were to fight them again. You need to look at the rankings when he fought them, not now if you want to be talking about rankings. Thank you for proving my point about how ignorant the Wilder haters are.
Dude isn't the greatest ever or anything, as I've said numerous times. Your reading comprehension is terrible too. He hits hard though, and if you're going to devalue his accomplishments, you need to at least do it right. I'm not even a Wilder fan. Look at my post history and you'll see plenty of times I've criticized him for his skill, and particularly his lack of a left. But I can at least give the man his due.Comment
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Deontay Wilder
Age: 32
Title: WBC heavyweight (2015-Present, 5 defenses)
Previous Titles: None
Height: 6’7
Weight: 220 ¾ lbs.
Hails from: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Record: 38-0, 37 KO?
Record in Major Title Fights: 6-0, 5 KO
Rankings: #2 (ESPN, Ring, Boxing Monthly), #3 (TBRB, BoxRec), #4 (BoxingScene)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Sergey Lyakhovich,
Vs.
Bermane Stiverne
Age: 39
Previous Title: WBC Heavyweight (2014-15)
Previous Titles: None
Height: 6’2
Weight: 254 ¾ lbs.
Hails from: Las Vegas, Nevada (Born in Haiti)
Record: 25-2-1, 21 KO, 1 KOBY
Record in Major Title Fights: 1-1, 1 KO
Rankings: Unrated
https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-...t-card--122106
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Deontay Wilder
Age: 33
Title: WBC heavyweight (2015-Present, 8 defenses)
Previous Titles: None
Height: 6’7
Weight: 223 ¼ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Record: 40-0-1, 39 KO?
Rankings: #2 (ESPN, BoxRec), #3 (TBRB, Ring, Boxing Monthly)
Record in Major Title Fights: 8-0-1, 7 KO
Last Five Opponents: 134-6-3 (.948)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Sergey Lyakhovich KO1; Bermane Stiverne UD12, KO1; Tyson Fury D12
Vs.
Dominic Breazeale
Titles/Previous Titles: None
Age: 33
Height: 6’7
Weight: 255 ¼ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Glendale, California
Record: 20-1, 18 KO, 1 KOBY
Press Rankings: Unrated
https://www.boxingscene.com/heavywei...stakes--139130Comment
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Heavyweights Tyson Fury, Champion
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Bermane Stiverne
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Ruslan Chagaev
10. Anthony Joshua
https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2015
That's the year they fought for the title. Recognize any of those names?
Heavyweights
Tyson Fury, Champion
Wladimir Klitschko
Deontay Wilder
Kubrat Pulev
Luis Ortiz
Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker
Bermane Stiverne
David Haye
Andy Ruiz Jr.
Dillian Whyte
https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2016
Oh look, still on the list. He got dropped for inactivity before the second fight because he only had one fight between the fights with Wilder (which he won), and Ring drops people for inactivity. Breazeale made the rankings in #9 in 2017 as a result. He's still a ranked opponent that Wilder beat, and Wilder fought him again because he was the only guy to go the distance with Wilder at that point, and Wilder starched him in the first round in the rematch.
Wilder fought Ortiz again because people said he got lucky in the first fight, and KOed him again too. There's a lot of other champions who won't even rematch opponents that gave them their hardest rights.
And nobody else has the same KO ratio. If the division is full of cans, somebody else should have been able to accomplish the same thing right?
You better have the same criticism of Tank Davis, for that matter. Maybe you're one of the people who says that Beterbiev only has his record because "nobody cares about LHW?" Truth is, you're just a hater.
"Wilder hasn't fought a ranked opponent"
Ranked opponents named.
"Well those ones don't count."
Uh huh.
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GGG...never dropped as a pro, robbed against Canelo....guys say what a bum.
Wilder almost dies fighting Fury...oh, what a warrior, the most explosive heavyweight ever.
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This HW era
Even a guy as sloppy and predictable and limited as Wilder is can thrive (if his opponent is not taller than him)
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