Is Wilder low weight and slimness the reason why he is the most explosive heavyweight?

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #21
    He doesn`t hit that hard to be honest.

    Dropping Fury many times or dropping his sparring partner means nothing.

    His power is nothing special, he is just a bum beater.

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    • Zaroku
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      #22
      Originally posted by The D3vil

      This right here.

      You're either born with it or you're not

      Wilder's lack of size enables him to be more athletic and have better endurance than a lot of fighters, which is why it was an awful idea to gain a bunch of weight to fight Fury
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        #23
        Originally posted by daggum


        was stiverne in the rematch in the top 10? no.

        ortiz was almost 40 but he was a top 10 opponent.

        was breazele in the top 10? no.


        so he's ko'd 1 top 10 opponent his entire career who happened to be 40 years old. doesnt look too impressive to me. looks to me like hes been carefully managed to look impressive against tomato cans and old men.
        Stiverne was ranked #6 by Ring when Wilder fought him.

        Dominic Breazeale made #9 before Wilder fought him, and in any case, he was the mandatory for Wilder's belt.

        ​​​​​You Wilder haters are hilarious because you don't even have your facts straight. Not like anyone has a good resume these days. The whole top ten is littered with guys with losses that people like you would use to devalue anyone you don't like.

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        • daggum
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          #24
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          He doesn`t hit that hard to be honest.

          Dropping Fury many times or dropping his sparring partner means nothing.

          His power is nothing special, he is just a bum beater.
          oh wow hater! i find it kinda strange how the people who hated ggg and called him a bum basher...a lot of them love wilder. wilder has ko'd 1 top 10 guy while ggg has ko'd probably close to 10? also ggg was pretty clearly trying to fight the top guys while wilder clearly was avoiding them. also ggg proved himself when he got robbed against the great fighter he fought...wilder got splattered all over the ring the times he fought a great fighter yet they still have hope he is some kind of dominant force...when ggg got robbed against canelo it was "i told you he was a bum" when wilder loses "he is the most explosive guy in the history of boxing!" we need more funding for mental illness

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #25
            Originally posted by daggum

            so you admit its a weak era and yet wilder is not even fighting anyone good within this weak era...thats not a good look for wilder. for example joshua has 7 top 10 wins, wilder has 2. not all defenses are created equal...but lots of times people retreat to vague stats when they dont have the substance on which to make a compelling argument. wow more title defenses...yeah but against who? quality is what matters and his resume isnt up to snuff. its much worse than andy ruiz's for example. its worse than joe joyce's for example. those guys dont get any hype though which shows that hype machine propaganda does work and boxing isnt based on merit, which is ok, but we should at least admit its not based on merit and not pretend guys like wilder are great for at best doing very little, and at worst for conning people into thinking they are top guys when they arent. the time for fantasy has almost come to an end dont you think? been waiting 10 years for him to dominate the division and ko everyone...yet 1 top 10 ko over a 40 year old is all that has arisen...weird.
            Indeed, it is a week era and Wilder only beat Ortiz.

            He lost to Fury three times, he has nobody like Ruiz, Parker, Sanchez on his resume. But guys here act like he stopped many legit contenders.

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            • daggum
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              #26
              Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

              Stiverne was ranked #6 by Ring when Wilder fought him.

              Dominic Breazeale made #9 before Wilder fought him, and in any case, he was the mandatory for Wilder's belt.

              ​​​​​You Wilder haters are hilarious because you don't even have your facts straight. Not like anyone has a good resume these days. The whole top ten is littered with guys with losses that people like you would use to devalue anyone you don't like.
              i dont have my facts straight? they werent ranked my dude. why are you making things up? why defend him so vigorously and even lie on his behalf? i dont get it. there are reasons some people have crap resumes. they made a choice. since when does telling the truth become hating? his only ko over a top 10 guy is ortiz and ortiz was about 40 years old. if you think that makes him the most explosive fighter ever then ok...dont know what to say really



              Bermane Stiverne

              Age: 39

              Previous Title: WBC Heavyweight (2014-15)

              Previous Titles: None

              Height: 6’2

              Weight: 254 ¾ lbs.

              Hails from: Las Vegas, Nevada (Born in Haiti)

              Record: 25-2-1, 21 KO, 1 KOBY

              Record in Major Title Fights: 1-1, 1 KO

              Rankings: Unrated


              https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-...t-card--122106

              Dominic Breazeale

              Titles/Previous Titles: None

              Age: 33

              Height: 6’7

              Weight: 255 ¼ lbs.

              Stance: Orthodox

              Hails from: Glendale, California

              Record: 20-1, 18 KO, 1 KOBY

              Press Rankings: Unrated

              https://www.boxingscene.com/heavywei...stakes--139130
              Last edited by daggum; 06-02-2023, 04:25 PM.

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              • Gideon lock
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                #27
                Originally posted by Zaroku

                I’d always admired guys with fast twitch musculature

                some guys just generate more force than others…

                other guys can’t pop like hard hitting people

                my wife has really fast explosive speed but it’s shot lived

                she gases out when we Ron on the sand near here.

                explosive power
                Yeah for sure Z I agree, that's cool about your wife I wish mine would go running with me or just workout for that matter hahaha. There is a different force that isn't necessarily fast twitch have you seen George foremans bagwork? He wasn't fast twitch but damn those punches where like thudding gunshots. Ggg padwork reminds me of that type of force too its a slow mechanical sort of snap that generates force by using kinetic chain. Both ggg and george have great punching stances always balanced and can generate great power any time in a fight. Exciting to watch and observe.

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                • Gideon lock
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  He doesn`t hit that hard to be honest.

                  Dropping Fury many times or dropping his sparring partner means nothing.

                  His power is nothing special, he is just a bum beater.
                  Says you this odious little man that's probably never boxed a round in its life. What a fool.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Gideon lock

                    Says you this odious little man that's probably never boxed a round in its life. What a fool.
                    Prove me wrong.

                    So knocking out guys like Szpilka, Washington...proves he is the strongest hitter ever?

                    Again, prove me wrong, id.iot.

                    Wilder is a bum.

                    Fury beat this bum like a dog and Fury is not even a hard hitter.
                    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 06-02-2023, 04:29 PM.

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                      #30
                      Since it's a weak era, why hasn't anyone else in the heavyweights managed to come even within shouting distance of Wilder's knockout ratio? Surely with careful management in such a poor and inactive era anyone could do it, if he's so overrated?

                      Wilder's not the greatest ever or anything, but the ******ity of people saying he doesn't hit hard is just wild.

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