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  • #51
    In reality all promoters are declining because boxing as a sport is declining. Ratings and ppv numbers are all down. Espn ratings for boxing are not good. The haney loma ppv numbers were low. Top ranks promotion of fury vs whyte in the US did awful ppv numbers

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    • #52
      Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post

      there’s some truth here but I believe Hearn just overvalued them all. There was no reason at all for him to sign them to multi fight deal and guaranteed the $$ he did.
      Matchroom had to pay big $$$ to play because Hearn didn't (and many argue that he still doesn't) understand the U.S market. Andrade/Farmer/Jacobs are good fighters, but not A-Side material and that's alright because not everyone will be. It failed because Hearn is perceived as the foreign invader, and TR/PBC/GBP have the collective power to freeze him out if they want to. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." There's no reason why Andrade/Charlo couldn't have happened, and why Munguia avoided a title shot against Andrade. Davis would've potentially dominated Farmer, yet he didn't/couldn't accept the offer. TR notably sent Ramirez to DAZN to face Maurice Hooker, but that feels like an exception. There are maybe 10 examples of significant match-ups made between MR and the U.S. promoters that have been shown on DAZN. Matchroom is swimming against the current. The sport suffers when the promoters are vindictive towards one another. It's impossible to build the perfect boxing stable, so promotional outfits should be bartering consistently throughout the year.
      Last edited by kiaba360; 05-28-2023, 07:18 PM.

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      • #53
        Ok I'm bout to start

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        • #54
          Originally posted by VislorTurlough View Post
          The last days of Eddie Hearn and his spoiled rich kid clown show
          Writing is on the wall. They entered the US market in 2018 with all this fake fan fare screaming that they had a billion dollars and a 5 year contract to shutdown Showtime and ESPN and take all Haymon's fighters and fold PBC. None of that happened. Fast forward to 2023 and they quietly announce a 3 year contract extension. No fan fare or bullhorn. Now call me crazy but you would think that if the bosses thought Hearn did a "Smash up" job then they would have doubled down and gave him a 10 yr contract instead of dropping it to three. That lets you know they are not happy with Hearn. He's not going to be able to produce for them. To be successful they need PPVs like David Caleb, Tank v Ryan, Spence v Bud, Andy v Wilder, David v Canelo and Tank v Devin. Unfortunately for them those are all Showtime events, not Dazn.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by VislorTurlough View Post
            Take away promoting Nationalism to sucker UK fans and Matchroom is less than zero. That crap doesn’t work in America. You think cuz a fighter is from say New York or Chicago it’s gonna get massive press coverage and fanfare in those towns and casuals will show up? Wrong cuz there are 1 Million other things that get coverage every day there. But if you have a Scottish fighter/Mancunian fighter/Welshman - put a fight against a corpse in those markets and it will be like New Years Day for punters
            Yes this is the best post ever and I've been saying this for years about boxing and other sports. Why do you think fighters like 3G, Loma or Kovalev were so (fake) popular. Three fighters from eastern Europe that would have been nobodies without the push from HBO and ESPN. You promote a fight in NYC with those 3 and every eastern European European living in America will pack a four thousand seat arena and treat that fight like it was the biggest global event ever. Meanwhile the other 10 million actual resident US citizens will be galavanting around NYC without a clue about that fight. Same as why Manny Paq was so popular. When have you ever seen an Asian athlete so wildly popular on that level? Because every Asian American, Japanese Korean Chinese Taiwanese, saw someone who looked like them and supported them to the fullest and I applaud them for that. Remember Jeremy Lin? Yao Ming and Jermey were the only Asians that had any success in the NBA and they sold out every game during the season because Asians came out in drives not for their love of basketball but because of their love of their people. That was a great post sir and we need to have these real discussions!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Bornboxingfan View Post

              Eddie played with Dazn money, until they put foot down. No more crazy contracts and PPV was reinstated.
              PPV is dead! Hahahha

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              • #57
                [QUOTE=Bornboxingfan;n31875918]

                The fire stick! Crawford himself stated, he doesn't pay for these events. That's why Crawford wanted clear
                breakdown of income and expenses, when stealing the signals effects all fighters eventually. . [/QUOTEthi

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Bornboxingfan View Post

                  The fire stick! Crawford himself stated, he doesn't pay for these events. That's why Crawford wanted clear
                  breakdown of income and expenses, when stealing the signals effects all fighters eventually. .
                  This idiot was encouraging his fans to steal the fights with their firesticks. They stole his fights. That's one of the reasons why Bob let him go!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by GBP4LIFE View Post
                    Canelo-GGG 3 was an absolute FLOP, that was a trilogy that was solely built by Oscar De La Hoya.

                    Canelo-Bivol another FLOP
                    The whole Dazn / Canelo relationship has been a flop. Paying a guy 50.mill with no PPV wasn't the best idea!

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                      Hearn is a clown. Top rank was around before he was even born and all he’s done since taking over with dazn is lose them money. He can brag about how many Mexicans went to see Canelo fight but notice how they never released the Ppv numbers? Because they were trash just like all of the numbers he’s done with canelo since he signed with dazn. His only major recent success is Taylor vs Serrano.
                      But the funny thing is you don't see a bunch of websites clamoring for the Canelo/Ryder Ppv numbers. Why????? ... Why??? Um hum!!
                      tkoboxingscene tkoboxingscene likes this.

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