Who is greater Mayweather or Roy Jones jr

[Kevin Jesus]

I understood what you were saying, I just think its more impressice in terms of actual weight gained. To gain 50lbs and still be effective is almost unheard of. 24lbs is still impressive, but its more common.

Yeah every year we see a Super Featherweight going up to Junior Middleweight.

I know what you mean though. It's much more difficult to go up 50lbs than 24lbs from where you initially started.

[AKATheMack]

Yeah every year we see a Super Featherweight going up to Junior Middleweight.

I know what you mean though. It's much more difficult to go up 50lbs than 24lbs from where you initially started.

I didnt say it was common just more common. I dont think it had been over 100 years since someone won belts over 24lbs.

[IMDAZED]

So this was about who has taken more threats by way of how much their opponents outweighed them? not really who was facing the better, more skilled, fighter?

If not mistaken, Jones was favorite in that fight. Someone being outweighed by 15pounds and going up 25 pounds north of their last Weight division, being favored against a HW either meant Jones was that good or John Ruiz was that bad?

I know Mayweather was also favored against De La Hoya but why wouldn't he? mean he "only went up 1 pound" right? So he wasn't really taking on a higer threat than Jones was taking with the great John Ruiz.

Yeah I agree with the bold.

You asked who I thought was the bigger threat. I don't always go by weight but I thought it the single most important factor with regard to Ruiz-Jones. Not so with Mayweather-De La Hoya. I'm lame enough to admit I picked Floyd to stop him. I thought Oscar had looked old in his recent fights and would not have the stamina needed to last with Floyd in the later rounds.

Ruiz won't be getting a call from Canastota any time soon but he has proven to be a top five, at worst top ten HW of his generation. He's fought most of the top heavys and hung tough with most of them as well. And he was facing a 33-year-old former middle whose greatest weapon was speed. I wasn't so sure about that one, regardless of the stature with which I looked at Roy.

[onetwopunch]

RJ, the names of the guys he beat Hopkins, Toney, then to go up into Heavyweight..He was much more of a dominant force than PBF.

[VirusTI]

Name me two fighters of greater p4p rating that Floyd has beat than Roy' Hopkins(Prime) and Toney(prime).
Go ahead, ill wait a couple of years...

[Chase8400]

Before anything, B-Hop > RJJ.

1993 fights. Look into it.

[Chase8400]

It's hilarious how people denegrate Mayweather for cherry picking, when Roy stayed busy throughout his career wailing on the postmans and milkmen of the world

Yea, because he didn't face and beat Hopkins and Toney easily. Not to mention McCallum, Griffin, Virgil Hill, Gonzalez, Woods, and then Ruiz. All bigger than him.

I'm not degrading Floyd, but the resume's just don't compare yet. Sorry.

A great big man will always beat a good or great little man. Floyd knows this.

[JM1]

both fighters are gifted but i like floyd's defense more. rjj is more accomplished than floyd

[street bully]

Roy Jones jr. Legends deserve their respect.

[Pullcounter]

Who is greater Mayweather or Roy Jones jr taking everything into consideration ? who accomplished more, who was the more talented etc etc.


Thoughts?

floyd is greater... but I like rjj better.