Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez Defends Ryan Garcia: "Body Shots Paralyze You"

[Madison Boxing]

Yes. The right kidney lies right under the liver, and can get bruised from the same body shot, resulting in blood in the urine. Regardless, I would love to watch any of the haters take a body shot from Garcia and then tell him that he quit. A little perspective goes a long ways. Real easy to talk about pain and going out on your shield from your couch.

wtf has that got of any relevance? he quit, the fact i cant box doesnt mean i cant watch a fight and draw that conclusion from what happened...

[Shadoww702]

How many times Floyd tore into the body of Zab Judah and he still carried on till the low blow ? How many times did Floyd blasted Maidana and he still kept going ? There is a reason why boxers train certain ways to deal with that . Cryan Garcia just quit and it shows how unprepared he was to rise to the occasion

Floyd couldn't break a g****.

[Boxingfanatic75]

I was pulling for Garcia, but he absolutely willfully quit. Despite what fans and supporters may say, that punch simply took the fight out of him. Plain and simple. He wanted no more, so he stayed on one knee and took the count out. In a former era, this would have been an unforgiveable sin in boxing, but people are just a lot more compassionate today, it seems. Well-timed body shots will take the starch out of most fighers though so there reallly is no shame or sin in getting KO'd this way. Only truly elite tough guys can manage to supress the pain to beat the 10 count. Garcia simply didn't have the focus and force of will to overcome the pain in time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oNM1j3i5-c

See the video posted concerning liver shots and what the body does. You have NO CONTROL over what your liver does to the nervous system and it shuts down your body. It has nothing whatsoever to do with “quitting.” No matter how willful you wish to be, you aren’t in any way “suppressing pain.” This isn’t some super hero fantasy. No man can take a perfectly skilled liver shot and suppress the pain. It’s anatomically impossible.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Feel free to go on Ryan's YouTube channel, take a liver shot from him, and then tell us all about how Ryan quit. IYKYK. All these keyboard heroes calling Ryan out could stand to have a little perspective. Just make sure to sign your waivers, because you'll end up in the hospital pissing blood.

You’ll never convince these children. Most have never in their lives been in any form of combat let alone wipe their Cheeto dusted faces long enough to look in the mirror in order to see their junk.

[TheOneAboveAll]

See the video posted concerning liver shots and what the body does. You have NO CONTROL over what your liver does to the nervous system and it shuts down your body. It has nothing whatsoever to do with “quitting.” No matter how willful you wish to be, you aren’t in any way “suppressing pain.” This isn’t some super hero fantasy. No man can take a perfectly skilled liver shot and suppress the pain. It’s anatomically impossible.

Chino Maidana

[Boxingfanatic75]

Chino Maidana

You can name anyone you wish. However Maidana nor anyone you can mention took a well placed shot that impacted the liver and just miraculously stood as it were Christ arisen and walking away from the cave. It doesn’t happen. You watch too many fictional movies. Rocky must have been real for you.

[crimsonfalcon07]

wtf has that got of any relevance? he quit, the fact i cant box doesnt mean i cant watch a fight and draw that conclusion from what happened...

Not saying you should box him. Just saying you should offer to go on his channel and take just ONE body shot from him. That would give you a little much needed perspective about what it means to quit from a liver shot. There's a lot of other things that one can legitimately judge a fighter for. But when it comes to their response to injury, it's one of those things that if you know, you know, and if you don't, you really shouldn't be talking. If you're too much of a coward to take even one punch in front of an audience, you have no business telling a fighter that he should keep fighting when injured.

Frankly, the fact that you even ask why it's relevant says you don't know enough to know what you're talking about. If you ever try it out, you'll know the answer instantly.

[TheOneAboveAll]

You can name anyone you wish. However Maidana nor anyone you can mention took a well placed shot that impacted the liver and just miraculously stood as it were Christ arisen and walking away from the cave. It doesn’t happen. You watch too many fictional movies. Rocky must have been real for you.

Let me get this straight. You think that the shot Davis landed on Ryan Garcia was more damaging than the one Amir Khan landed on Maidana? There seems to be no end to the noob fans on here who think Ryan Garcia took the most devastating body shot in the history of this sport. Watch the playback. It was a well placed but short and glancing shot to the ribs. Ryan went down in meek surrender. Many other fighters, Maidana among them, got dropped and rolled around in agony as though they took a bullet to the stomach. I have no doubt that Ryan was truly hurt by Tank’s shot. The punch clearly took the fight out of Ryan, but Ryan’s reaction (clear-minded submission) showed the difference between him and guys like Maidana who spontaneously **** his pants but still willed himself to get up and continue. Very few fighters have that level of physical and mental fortitude, and that is why they are revered as legends in the sport.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Let me get this straight. You think that the shot Davis landed on Ryan Garcia was more damaging than the one Amir Khan landed on Maidana? There seems to be no end to the noob fans on here who think Ryan Garcia took the most devastating body shot in the history of this sport. Watch the playback. It was a well placed but short and glancing shot to the ribs. Ryan went down in meek surrender. Many other fighters, Maidana among them, got dropped and rolled around in agony as though they took a bullet to the stomach. I have no doubt that Ryan was truly hurt by Tank’s shot. The punch clearly took the fight out of Ryan, but Ryan’s reaction (clear-minded submission) showed the difference between him and guys like Maidana who spontaneously **** his pants but still willed himself to get up and continue. Very few fighters have that level of physical and mental fortitude, and that is why they are revered as legends in the sport.

Noob fans? Son, I’m quite certain I’ve got drawers older than you. If you are unable to state you watched Holmes/Weaver, Leonard/Benitez and watch Ali announce his retirement then get lost kiddo. You’re quite obviously ignorant regarding human anatomy and what a liver shot (a real liver shot) does. No amount of “will power, physical or mental fortitude” is going to will a boxer to his feet. The body shuts down. Period, end of story.

[TheOneAboveAll]

Noob fans? Son, I’m quite certain I’ve got drawers older than you. If you are unable to state you watched Holmes/Weaver, Leonard/Benitez and watch Ali announce his retirement then get lost kiddo. You’re quite obviously ignorant regarding human anatomy and what a liver shot (a real liver shot) does. No amount of “will power, physical or mental fortitude” is going to will a boxer to his feet. The body shuts down. Period, end of story.

You're not that old, kid. If Holmes-Weaver is your oldest fight memory and if your birth year is 1975, then I may have drawers older than you. At any rate, simply being old isn't any kind of virtue nor does it confer any kind of cred on you. I call you a noob fan because you sound like a complete noob fan when you rail on declaring that the body shot that Ryan took was the best shot ever landed. Ryan was completely in control of his body and wits after he got hit by Tank's push-punch. He was in pain, for sure, but he stayed down, not because his body was out of his control, but because he simply wanted no more. His mind was clear and he quit, plain and simple. At 10.01 seconds he got up and then proceeded to walk around the ring and mug with the fans. You may be old and mushy-headed, but you need to watch more fights.