Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez Defends Ryan Garcia: "Body Shots Paralyze You"

[crimsonfalcon07]

Feel free to go on Ryan's YouTube channel, take a liver shot from him, and then tell us all about how Ryan quit. IYKYK. All these keyboard heroes calling Ryan out could stand to have a little perspective. Just make sure to sign your waivers, because you'll end up in the hospital pissing blood.

[Smash]

thanks oscar, but all pro and am boxers knows this but why then do they say ryan quit? this is a mystery so

[Boxfan83]

Feel free to go on Ryan's YouTube channel, take a liver shot from him, and then tell us all about how Ryan quit. IYKYK. All these keyboard heroes calling Ryan out could stand to have a little perspective. Just make sure to sign your waivers, because you'll end up in the hospital pissing blood.

From a liver shot?

[TheOneAboveAll]

I was pulling for Garcia, but he absolutely willfully quit. Despite what fans and supporters may say, that punch simply took the fight out of him. Plain and simple. He wanted no more, so he stayed on one knee and took the count out. In a former era, this would have been an unforgiveable sin in boxing, but people are just a lot more compassionate today, it seems. Well-timed body shots will take the starch out of most fighers though so there reallly is no shame or sin in getting KO'd this way. Only truly elite tough guys can manage to supress the pain to beat the 10 count. Garcia simply didn't have the focus and force of will to overcome the pain in time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oNM1j3i5-c

[Monty Fisto]

Did he have the legs to stand up straight by the count of 10? Probably.
Did he have the wind in him to fight or move his legs beyond standing up? No.

It was legit. Give the kid a break.

[whollisboxing]

Here are my thoughts:

[whollisboxing]

I was pulling for Garcia, but he absolutely willfully quit. Despite what fans and supporters may say, that punch simply took the fight out of him. Plain and simple. He wanted no more, so he stayed on one knee and took the count out. In a former era, this would have been an unforgiveable sin in boxing, but people are just a lot more compassionate today, it seems. Well-timed body shots will take the starch out of most fighers though so there reallly is no shame or sin in getting KO'd this way. Only truly elite tough guys can manage to supress the pain to beat the 10 count. Garcia simply didn't have the focus and force of will to overcome the pain in time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oNM1j3i5-c

The great Erik Morales allowed himself to be counted out in his third fight with Manny Pacquiao and Alexis Arguello took a 10-count vs Aaron Pryor in their rematch. And both guys are still held in high regard.

[PeasantCrusha]

If the body shot hurt that bad then why did he choose to get up at 10. He should still been down to at least 15. It's like he stood up just in time to quit. I'm still gonna support Cryan Quitcia at 140 tho!!!

Because it's one thing to get up and walk to your corner it's another to get up from that shot and try to fight Tank.
The fact that he was able to stand and walk does not mean he was able to get down and slug it out with Davis.


It's not black and white when you take a shot to the liver...

[Roadblock]

This isn’t a unique anomaly exclusive to only Ryan. I can find you dozens and dozens of videos of the EXACT sequence of events; delayed reaction, down grimacing and up at 10. It’s literally everywhere! This one was most definitely delayed and legit. At the moment of the shot you can see his facial reaction and it wasn’t good. He then goes down a full 3 seconds later. Nothing new here and nothing at all unique.

[TheOneAboveAll]

The great Erik Morales allowed himself to be counted out in his third fight with Manny Pacquiao and Alexis Arguello took a 10-count vs Aaron Pryor in their rematch. And both guys are still held in high regard.

Yes, as they should. They both gave in in those fights, but they are remembered for the greatness they proved over the rest of their careers. I’m not slamming Garcia. I’m just saying he quit, because he did.