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  • ELPacman
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    #31
    Originally posted by TMT_HEAT
    If Loma starts early he’ll coast to a victory. I don’t think Haney can handle his work rate/movement.
    Are we talking old Loma activity? Or are you remember prime Loma? Prime Loma would of wrecked Haney. No joke. Whether he decides to make Haney pull a no mas because he can't touch him, or he just literally gets KO'd at some point. He looked like a wizard in the ring. Once in a lifetime talent.

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    • Jsmooth9876
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      The problem with this is it reads like Haney waited to make the fight until he had the best chance to win.

      There was a window for them to fight earlier. Haney was never an easy fight like Crolla. He was high risk, low reward. So Arum did what was necessary to make sure it didnt happen.

      Loma could win. If he does its because he is a great boxer.

      If he doesn’t it will be because Haney, for all the hate he gets, is a highly skilled , athletic boxer that is tough for anyone to deal with.
      Nah, that's just what you wanna take from it. I never said either guy dodged the other, just that Loma is not what he used to be and it's an easier fight now for Haney than it would have been had they met earlier.

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        #33
        Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

        i think loma's style been exposed in the Teofimo fight... haney is the better boxer here.
        Exposed how exactly? he didn't throw any punches until the second half of the fight and when he did, he picked Teo apart. He lost the 12th round though.

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        • Noelanthony
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          #34
          Originally posted by TheIronMike

          funny how an ATG fighter like Loma can't come up with a strategy to stop clinching....
          Not many can stop the dreaded clinch. I watched Mayweather vs Paul for the first time today and damn it’s a useful weapon if you don’t want to get knocked out.

          This fight is a great match up for both fighters. Loma can can really commit to his offence knowing that he won’t get knocked out and Haney can take it to him. He should mimic what worked for Lopez as I feel Haney could take it to the next level as his defence , stamina and Jab is way better than Lopez. Some fractions of fans question Haney’s chin but it will be fine against Loma. I’m going 60-40 Haney split decision

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          • IceTrayDaGang
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            #35
            Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

            Exposed how exactly? he didn't throw any punches until the second half of the fight and when he did, he picked Teo apart. He lost the 12th round though.
            why you think he didnt throw in the 1st half? because he didnt want to or because he couldnt? .... to beat loma, you have to throw when he throws. that's how teofimo beat him. dont shy away and cover up, when loma starts throwing, that's when you should also start throwing.

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            • ColdBlooded
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              #36
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

              why you think he didnt throw in the 1st half? because he didnt want to or because he couldnt? .... to beat loma, you have to throw when he throws. that's how teofimo beat him. dont shy away and cover up, when loma starts throwing, that's when you should also start throwing.
              Haney is not good in exchanges. And didn't Loma have a torn shoulder in that fight? Haney is neither a combination nor power puncher.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ELPacman

                Are we talking old Loma activity? Or are you remember prime Loma? Prime Loma would of wrecked Haney. No joke. Whether he decides to make Haney pull a no mas because he can't touch him, or he just literally gets KO'd at some point. He looked like a wizard in the ring. Once in a lifetime talent.
                After the Teo fight which he got surgery on the following days after he has looked good imo

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                  I see alot of talk about Haney and Tank like the Loma fight is a forgone conclusion.
                  I think if Loma has anything left in the tank, it's gonna be a tough fight for Haney, not a walk in the park like some here seem to think. I'm gonna roll with Haney by decision because Loma hasn't been getting off till the second half of fights lately but if he comes out firing early I think Loma could win it.
                  i think loma has a chance if he channels his inner rage and use the ukraine war as motivation.

                  ***** would likely have to start winning some of these engagements in ukraine for loma to get in that mindset that he needs to win this fight to secure and preserve ukrainian sovereignty and existence.

                  if ***** continues to lose ground in ukraine, loma is gonna lose this fight.

                  ***** would have to start pushing back on the eastern front and retake bahkmut in order for loma to go all kenshiro on haney.

                  Left Hook Tua


                  do you agree with this boxing/military assessment?

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                  • Jsmooth9876
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                    why you think he didnt throw in the 1st half? because he didnt want to or because he couldnt? .... to beat loma, you have to throw when he throws. that's how teofimo beat him. dont shy away and cover up, when loma starts throwing, that's when you should also start throwing.
                    So why was he able to throw the second half? Teo stop punching altogether? Or did Loma start throwing more?

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                      #40
                      Yes, I give him a serious chance.

                      Distance & time. These are the two elements of the boxing fight, that Lomachenko or any Haney opponent needs to subtract vs Haney.

                      Inside game, and closing speed 'These are the two attributes, that Lomachenko has which can achieve this tactical aim.

                      Stylistically, Lomachenko will know precisely what kind of fight he needs to fight 'The difficult part will be applying these tactics on fight night'.

                      In order for Lomachenko to make his best attributes show vs Haney 'His speed will have to ether be equal or greater than Haney's'.

                      Haney has not really shown much ability to fight on the inside, so that's the environment Lomachenko has to create.

                      Note: This fight is a similar tactical fight, to Ricky Hatton vs Floyd Mayweather Junior. Hatton had to take away Mayweather's distance and time, which he successfully did for most of the fight 'But what Hatton then realized ? Was that Mayweather Junior had a serious and capable inside game'.

                      So overall, I do give Lomachenko a serious chance. But right now it is difficult to judge how each fighters speed of movement, and hand speed will compare.

                      Lomachenko has world level endurance so, that is not a issue etc.



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