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  • #21
    Zhang vs AJ is a good fight. This new AJ is a boxer first and well only yet still us super chinny will this look much like the Zhang vs Hrgovic fight I expect so. I would love to see this new AJ vs Hrgovic for Post Ruiz AJ is not a champion caliber boxer maybe paper champ but that's bout all.

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    • #22
      Make Joshua - Zhang or joshua-Joyce fights next then Eddie.
      Last edited by tokon; 04-18-2023, 01:49 PM.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        What does Zhang need to do to get respect. He's won 26 out of 27 fights, he's a Olympic silver medalist, he's beat a bronze and silver medallist in his last 2 fights!. Every time Zhang beats someone, they then become bums? Flip and joyce are bums now? So when Zhang beats wilder, fury, theyre bums all of a sudden?
        Zhang is elite, don't need to explain it and be apologetic about saying it. But it might be only for next couple of years.
        It's ridiculous really. Boxing fans have the memory of a goldfish and love to criticize and put people down when they lose. Everything a boxer has accomplished before a loss becomes irrelevant and forgotten. It's supposed to be competitive. Would fans like it more if one fighter dominated and there was no decent competition out there? Upsets have happened since the sport began. It's the nature of the game, especially when you're talking heavyweights who can change everything with one well placed punch. I think Zhang's recent success has just made the heavyweight division more interesting and I'm not someone who thinks Joyce is garbage and has no chance of coming back strong. I was disappointed in Joyce's performance but I'm not going to say he was never any good. Sure he has his fair share of weaknesses but it doesn't make him a bum.

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        • #24
          AJ should fight Joyce, and Fury should fight Zhang

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          • #25
            Not only isn’t he elite but very basic and old as hell!

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            • #26
              Well, AJ wants respect, he can get it by taking on Wilder, Zhang, or Joyce.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by SN!PER View Post
                Well, AJ wants respect, he can get it by taking on Wilder, Zhang, or Joyce.
                Given his last fight, the only way to get respect for AJ right now is buying Aretha Franklin's record.

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                • #28
                  Joyce would do absolutely nothing for Joshua now when he defeats Joyce , it’s like once again the forum has never watched boxing and doesn’t know it always complains when fighters take on guys after losses anyways ,now it’s going to be different all of a sudden right ? Don’t you guys remember a guy named Franklin ? When the typical crew comes on here and says Joshua defeated a shop worn Joyce and he cherry picked .


                  Joshua is working out a Wilder fight right now the same guy most think would splatter Joyce and your crying about that anyway saying Joshua isn’t ready like morons ?


                  This forum is as dumb as rocks it really is .,not only did some have Joyce winning against Joshua before Zhang now you have even more posters going with it even after the Zhang fight he got completely busted up in and based off a shut out against Franklin ? Even though that fight has zero resemblance to a Joshua vs Joyce where somehow Joyce got more credibility and Joshua has battered Zhang in the past amateurs or not ? Lol


                  On a scale from 1 to 10 this week I’d give this forum an 11 based on going over the marker of dumb , I seriously can’t believe this forum keeps getting dumber how do you guys do it ? Yea sure Zhang would beat Joshua easily now…Whyte even beats him because he got battered by Fury and Joshua’s not even in the mix because he lost to Usyk..and holy hell did you see what Wilder did to Helenius ? No way Joshua lasts two rounds there as well…………sure ..sure .
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-18-2023, 02:43 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Today:

                    Champion -
                    Tyson Fury, England

                    1. Zhilei Zhang, China
                    2. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine
                    3. Deontay Wilder, United States
                    4. Anthony Joshua, England
                    5. Andy Ruiz Jr, United States
                    6. Filip Hrgovic, Croatia
                    7. Joe Joyce, England
                    8. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
                    9. Daniel Dubois, England
                    10. Dillian Whyte, England
                    11.Jarred Anderson, United States
                    12.Joseph Parker, New Zealand
                    13.Frank Sanchez, Cuba
                    14.Martin Bakole, The Congo
                    15.Murat Gassiev, Armenia
                    16.Otto Wallin, Sweden
                    17.Carlos Takam, Cameron
                    18.Derrek Chisora, England
                    19.Kubrat Pulev, Bulgaria
                    20.Efe Ajagba, Nigeria

                    During the past 10 Years:
                    2013 - 2023

                    1. Tyson Fury
                    2. Deontay Wilder
                    3. Oleksandr Usyk
                    4. Wladimir Klitschko
                    5. Anthony Joshua
                    6. Zhilei Zhang
                    7. Andy Ruiz Jr
                    8. Luis Ortiz
                    9. Alexander Povetkin
                    10.Dillian Whyte
                    11.Joe Joyce
                    12.Daniel Dubois
                    13.Filip Hrgovic
                    14.Jarrell Miller
                    15.Joseph Parker
                    16.Kubrat Pulev
                    17.Otto Wallin
                    18.Frank Sanchez
                    19.Robert Helenius
                    20.Derek Chisora
                    21.Charles Martin
                    22.Carlos Takam
                    23.Martin Bakole
                    24.Jared Anderson
                    25.Tomasz Adamek
                    26.Chris Arreola
                    27.Tony Thompson
                    28.Bermane Stiverne
                    29.Michael Hunter
                    30.Tony Yoka
                    31.Johann Duhaupas
                    32.Bakhodir Jalolov
                    33.Oscar Rivas
                    34.Efe Ajagba
                    35.David Haye
                    36.Bryant Jennings
                    37.Jermaine Franklin
                    38.Agit Kabayel
                    39.Arslanbek Makhmudov
                    40.Gerald Washington
                    41.Murat Gassiev
                    42.Shannon Briggs
                    43.Dominic Breazeale
                    44.Adam Kownacki
                    45.Ruslan Chagaev
                    46.Fabio Wardley
                    47.Christian Hammer
                    48.Alexander Dimetrienko
                    49.Ivan Dychko
                    50.Hugie Fury​

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by theface07 View Post

                      It's ridiculous really. Boxing fans have the memory of a goldfish and love to criticize and put people down when they lose. Everything a boxer has accomplished before a loss becomes irrelevant and forgotten. It's supposed to be competitive. Would fans like it more if one fighter dominated and there was no decent competition out there? Upsets have happened since the sport began. It's the nature of the game, especially when you're talking heavyweights who can change everything with one well placed punch. I think Zhang's recent success has just made the heavyweight division more interesting and I'm not someone who thinks Joyce is garbage and has no chance of coming back strong. I was disappointed in Joyce's performance but I'm not going to say he was never any good. Sure he has his fair share of weaknesses but it doesn't make him a bum.
                      it's like people think there's only 2 great heavyweights in usy k and fury and everyone else is irrelevant? Yes fury and usy k are great but they still need to show us they're better than zhang and joyce.
                      Joyce isn't a bum for sure, because we know he lost to a great fighter in zhang. Fury said Joyce is no2 heavyweight on earth quite possibky

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