Bam Rodriguez is overrated IMO.

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  • Dakuwaqa
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    #41
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    How can you dominate somebody when they broke your f***ing jaw? Come on man that’s crazy talk. He definitely won the fight but dominating is what Shakur did to that Japanese contender.

    They were both clearly washed, you’re really gonna list Amnat, he’s essentially a journeyman now and is even more washed than SSR is. Be honest now, have you even seen that fight with SSR? The fact SSR struggled with a washed version of Ruenrong is the reason most us realised he was cooked.
    Of course you can dominate with a broken jaw

    It only takes on punch and all fighters get hit. If you dominate 11 rounds get your jaw broken from a punch in the 12th you still dominated the fight.

    I’m not saying he dominated btw, he won fairly comfortably but it was competitive.

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      #42
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      You cut the ring off with your feet. Positioning is very important, specifically your front foot placement. You have to be able to move laterally so you can keep your opponent in front of you. It’s also about controlling range and not allowing your opponent to pivot when cornered.
      He literally parroted what I said, then accused others of doing so.

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        #43
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
        Very few fighters look good against boxers who are always moving. Look how ineffective Casimero was against Rigo. This kind of comment always makes clear who has ring experience and who doesn't. People who are actually in the fight game have a much better understanding of what they're talking about.

        Like, "he should have cut the ring off better." Cutting the ring involves diagonal movement to stay close rather than just following them, but then you also have to be able to hit them with something when they touch rope and have to exit out the side. That generally means a looping shot or a hook in boxing, which are shorter ranged shots. If you're the fighter on the short end of the reach, that's much harder to do. Lots of very good fighters end up looking flat trying to walk down fighters who have reach and know how to use it. In fact, there's several P4P luminaries who have looked flat against this style of opponent.
        So you suck at reading comprehension AND have no actual ring experience. No wonder your opinion is so ignorant.

        That was in the very post you replied to when you starting whinging about footwork, and you called it lateral, which isn't even correct.
        Last edited by crimsonfalcon07; 04-10-2023, 01:17 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

          Of course you can dominate with a broken jaw

          It only takes on punch and all fighters get hit. If you dominate 11 rounds get your jaw broken from a punch in the 12th you still dominated the fight.

          I’m not saying he dominated btw, he won fairly comfortably but it was competitive.
          I disagree, if you’re opponent significantly damages you, you haven’t dominated IMO

          I agree he won clearly, but it was definitely competitive as you said.

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            #45
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

            So you suck at reading comprehension AND have no actual ring experience. No wonder your opinion is so ignorant.
            You’re a complete fraud. Exposed.

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              #46
              To be fair to Crimsonfalcon, you want to move diagonally and not laterally if you want to cut the ring off.

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                #47
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                You’re a complete fraud. Exposed.
                Must be talking to a mirror, since the person who got exposed was you. Proof that I pointed out footwork before you is right there for everyone to see. We're done here.

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                • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                  To be fair to Crimsonfalcon, you want to move diagonally and not laterally if you want to cut the ring off.
                  You need to be able to do both. Diagonal to cut off the space, lateral to keep your opponent in front of you.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                    Must be talking to a mirror, since the person who got exposed was you. Proof that I pointed out footwork before you is right there for everyone to see. We're done here.
                    You didn’t mention footwork once you clown. Quote where you mentioned footwork or positioning.

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                    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                      Very few fighters look good against boxers who are always moving. Look how ineffective Casimero was against Rigo. This kind of comment always makes clear who has ring experience and who doesn't. People who are actually in the fight game have a much better understanding of what they're talking about.

                      Like, "he should have cut the ring off better." Cutting the ring involves diagonal movement to stay close rather than just following them, but then you also have to be able to hit them with something when they touch rope and have to exit out the side. That generally means a looping shot or a hook in boxing, which are shorter ranged shots. If you're the fighter on the short end of the reach, that's much harder to do. Lots of very good fighters end up looking flat trying to walk down fighters who have reach and know how to use it. In fact, there's several P4P luminaries who have looked flat against this style of opponent.

                      "He should have gotten angles." That requires a stationary opponent who wants to trade or counter. If they move when or before you get in range, you have to reset again. Heck, they even pointed that out in the broadcast.

                      There's basically only one way to take the legs from a mover, and that's body shots. Bam could have potentially profited from investing way more heavily in the body. Hard to say though, because he did land quite a few and they didn't have much effect. Cristian came in great shape. And he and his coach knew that, but it's easier said than done. Another point which was made by Robert Garcia when they interviewed him mid fight.

                      There are a couple things he could add to his game. One is hand fighting. One of the HOF guys called that traffic, but basically fencing with lead hand. Helps keep their output lower and gives you more time to react to their movements and more chances to get inside. Another is trying to develop Pacquiao-style explosiveness so he can crash the distance quickly and get in and out faster. But that can be dangerous if they time you coming in (as has happened to Pacquiao), and also comes at the expense of cutting off the ring. Also still much harder to do against the guys who are constantly moving.

                      But remember, he's 23, and already a two division world champion. What did you accomplish by 23? He's got time to evolve and improve.
                      No mention of footwork here…

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