Floyd's "New" Nice Guy Persona is Easy to Explain

[JAB5239]

It doesn't change the fact he is a hero for the country and then returns home and he can't eat at a white only restaurant because he's...a hero...NO....but because he's black. No matter what he did, he was still colored and had to remain in his place.

To an extent yes. But he still set the wheels in motion for civil rights and was still loved by the majority of the country.

Once again, I'm sure there are things he wanted to bring to the surface, but in his best interests, he didn't. Also, I didn't say Ali didn't respect him, you are throwing words in my mouth. I stated he disliked him. Why. He had a chance to be a voice for black people and he chose to shy away from race. Ali on the other hand, once given the platform stood up for not only blacks, but also those he where against a war that had little meaning.

To say Louis shied away from being a voice for black people is 100% wrong. Louis was a great voice for his people if you know anything about him. But being a voice and being militant are two different things. You've also got to take into consideration that civil rights were on the back burner compared to the 60's.

[cyutetrick]

iv always had a feeling floyd is a good dude, but id rather see him be an ass and have me hate him, its smart, i mean im always hoping someone beats him, hate him, but respect that he is an atg.

[sL0]

To say Louis shied away from being a voice for black people is 100% wrong. Louis was a great voice for his people if you know anything about him. But being a voice and being militant are two different things. You've also got to take into consideration that civil rights were on the back burner compared to the 60's.

I know a lot about him. Being a voice and militant. Hmm, let me see. There is a thin line between the two for me because blacks weren't treated equal to begin with. Some blacks, who stood up for themselves, were considered militant, yes? I totally disagree. They had a right to stand up for equality by any non violent means necessary. I could go on for days on end, and you seem to know a thing or two so I'll trust that you very well know exactly what I mean. I do agree times were different but enough was enough. A stand was taken. That's the difference I see. Anyway we could go back and forth and create a 300 page thread with this. We can agree to disagree and I'll leave it at. Now back to the thread.

I think Floyd added a few things to his persona to market himself a bit more. No one can deny he wants all the lights on him. Personally, I think he takes his antics overboard a little. I think, or should I say hope, he realizes he is getting too old for some of the shyt, and tapers it down a bit.

[We want Floyd]

Well, in the event a PAC - Floyd were to happen. Somebody has to play the villain. But, then again, maybe not, both guys are 1 & 2 cash cows of boxing, so that alone may not need a good vs evil theme.

We will see, I do hope Floyd goes back to his villain role though, if he and PAC were to get it on.

[JAB5239]

I know a lot about him. Being a voice and militant. Hmm, let me see. There is a thin line between the two for me because blacks weren't treated equal to begin with. Some blacks, who stood up for themselves, were considered militant, yes? I totally disagree. They had a right to stand up for equality by any non violent means necessary. I could go on for days on end, and you seem to know a thing or two so I'll trust that you very well know exactly what I mean. I do agree times were different but enough was enough. A stand was taken. That's the difference I see. Anyway we could go back and forth and create a 300 page thread with this. We can agree to disagree and I'll leave it at. Now back to the thread.

Im taking it you know about the stands taken by Louis for Jackie Robinson and segregated troops while he was in the military.

Anyway, I can agree to disagree. You have proven you have knowledge even if we do not see eye to eye on this.

Green K to be sent.

I think Floyd added a few things to his persona to market himself a bit more. No one can deny he wants all the lights on him. Personally, I think he takes his antics overboard a little. I think, or should I say hope, he realizes he is getting too old for some of the shyt, and tapers it down a bit.

We'll see what happens. Maybe he can pull of a George Foreman transformation and get the majority of the public on his side. I doubt it, but I wouldn't be adverse to it.

[freedom213]

Very easy folks.

Floyd is NOT the actual "bad guy" braggart" that some of you are accustomed to seeing. He has used that persona only for the past few years as a marketing (genius) ploy to become a house hold name. He learned from the best like Ali, Tyson, and Hopkins and knew that for a black man to become a star in the U.S. he has to be a tough guy. A white boxer can become a star simply because the majority of U.S. is white. A latino can become a star like Oscar De la Hoya by being a nice guy simply because there's like 30 billion latino people all over the world. But history shows that the most talented black people rarely become stars. Look at Pernel Whitaker I doubt he'd be a draw in today's boxing world. Only a guy like Tyson a perennial criminal could get huge ratings and huge $$$ in the U.S. and thus Floyd Mayweather took on this bad persona.
Now his goals are achieved. He has "arrived" as the most dominant PPV heavy hitter in the world today in boxing. He now rivals only Oscar de la Hoya and has surpassed everyone else including Pacquiao and as such he must be feeling that he no longer needs to put on that fake front.
The true Floyd is sensitive and caring as you saw by tonight's interview with how bad he felt about the ill comments he made about the HBO crew.
He knows that now that he's such a huge star he will continue to dominate PPV charts without having to rely on the bad boy persona, he's now famous enough to be a huge star without that so he has simply doffed the fake facade.
Welcome back, Floyd.

Hope you dont believe that crap. Floyd is truly a bit of a **** but he also is a guy with a big ego and a legitimate reason to be ****y. I think this is the cigarette after sex Floyd. He got what he wanted, he trained and promoted the hell out of the fight and then his performance was excellent taking into account he fought a much smaller man. the stars aligned for him and if pac can get past Cotto he knows he has a big payday lined up.

[Fulcrum29]

Hope you dont believe that crap. Floyd is truly a bit of a **** but he also is a guy with a big ego and a legitimate reason to be ****y. I think this is the cigarette after sex Floyd. He got what he wanted, he trained and promoted the hell out of the fight and then his performance was excellent taking into account he fought a much smaller man. the stars aligned for him and if pac can get past Cotto he knows he has a big payday lined up.

Why would this be cigarettes after "sex" with "sex" being allegorical for something like his best or biggest fight when he's in fact had bigger fights already? Both Mayweather/DLH and Mayweather/Hatton were bigger so why would this fight of all fights be such a sudden change? Your theory doesn't make sense in that regard. Hell in the Hatton fight not only was it bigger PPV and $ wise but he even KO'd the guy.

[deuce_drop]

floyd has been humbled by the IRS, nothing more. and i think that he has also taken to heart what hopkins has said about him (floyd) and the african-american community and boxing. floyd isnt doing anything good for boxing and for african-americans in boxing by his bull**** persona. there isnt anymore a real presence of african-american support in the sport of boxing, and when you got guys acting like floyd trying to sell himself, in a terrible image i might add, it does nothing to progress things in a positive manner.

seriously, if he cares about the sport, and his community, then he wouldn't have taken that fake ass lifestyle of Flashy. and i think that it took the corrupt government and their REAL BULLIES, the IRS, to humble floyd.

i have to say, yeah right, he sold his cars and flashy stuff because he's growing up and is starting to mature!?!?!?! that is laughable, it's like a kid feeling sorry for something after he got caught. is the kid sorry for what he did? or for getting caught????? 9 times out of 10 it's because they got caught. same principle applies to floyd. the IRS got a huge chunk of his purse from the fight, and they more than likely put floyd into the position of having to liquidate some of his assets to pay the rest, which no matter how rich one is and how much of a badass inside the ring, the IRS will humble anyone!!

i will believe floyd is turning over a new leaf when he starts to do good for the sport and his community and not when the camera's are around..........

i've met floyd a few times and every time i've met him in person, he's been nice, cordial, and very respectful to FANS or people perceived as fans, but let him find out that you work for the press or have an opinion on matching making, and he and his people will treat you like you're sub-human. it's happened to me and i've seen it happen to others, and i don't fault him for that, it's his defense mechanism with dealings outside the ring, i get that, but i will only be convinced that floyd has made a change for the positive when i see it happen, and more than once. actions are the only thing that we can really judge and make an account of a person........... interviews don't mean ****, talking doesn't mean a thing, it's all about action and what one does.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

The true Floyd is sensitive and caring as you saw by tonight's interview with how bad he felt about the ill comments he made about the HBO crew.

LOL Link, por favor?