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  • #41
    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    It did happen, Oscar demanded a 3lb. catch-weight, B-Hop accepted, and got the KO! Oh, BTW, B-Hop was 39! Levels!
    did he have a hydration clause and a 4lb catchweight?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

      How exactly could he have done like GGG?

      If Ryan didn’t accept all of Tank’s bullsh-t terms then Tank wouldn’t agree to fight.
      GGG never fought Canelo at 155. He refused to do so! He wasn't so thirsty for the money!

      Why is it so important that Tank accepted the fight? Tank has a secondary belt at 135! Prograis has a belt, Taylor has a belt! Teofimo Lopez and Haney would've jumped to fight Ryan at 140, even without a belt! Those fights are just as good!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Smash View Post

        do they even do fight night weights anymore? does anyone know what guys weigh fight night?
        I'm not sure but you can see how some guys balloon overnight. Shakur Stevenson looked like a Jr MW against Conceicao
        elcompachuy elcompachuy likes this.

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        • #44
          How much of an advantage do you guys want Garcia to have? 150? 155? Just curious.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

            Agree with all points. I would add further that rehydration is a serious health and safety issue in any fight sport. Every non-heavy weight shows up to the weigh-in a dehydrated state. They simply could not fight safely at the actual weigh-in weight, and that’s why they all rehydrate to 10-15% more of the negotiated weight by fight night. If you made weight on weigh-in night, then you made weight, period. It is the state athletic commissions, if not the sanctioning bodies, that should ban the imposition of rehydration clauses for all fighter’s safety.
            Good post.

            I have had people on here, trying to claim to me? That old school fighters used to weight drain themselves excessively 'Under the same day weigh in rule'. And this was why the 'Day before weigh in rule was created'.

            When this 1000% not the truth. If it was then it would be documented in books, we would of seen it on the movie screens 'I did see these techniques being magnified anywhere in the movie Raging Bull'. And you expect it to be a massive part of historical sporting literature 'But it is not, because Weight draining to the level it is used today is a modern toxic phenomenon'.

            Fighters from past era's would not of been able to fight over 100 fights 'Weighed in on the same day as the fight, while simultaneously draining themselves by 10-20 pounds' They would of not been the fighters they were, or been as active 'Athletes in other sports do not compete under these conditions, because it is not optimal'.

            Because from what I can see in today's modern game, fighters are more challenged by making the weight than the actual fight 'It is a massively monumental part of their preparation, because most of these fighters are not fighting at their natural weight'.

            So the way they train and prepared for fights is abnormal 'It is not conducive for producing great athletes'. Modern day fighters in the lower weight divisions, theoretically even with all the advances in technology and Sport supplementation 'I don't think they are as fit, or have the base conditioning of the past fighters'.

            Never have fighters in the history of boxing, weight drained themselves so excessively and as you have pointed out 'Dangerously'.

            Note: The only real why to impede the toxic weight draining culture is to alter the weigh in rules 'Because it is clearly a bi-product of the day before weigh in rule'.

            This is still a good fight, but it has been unnecessarily devalued due to the re-hydration clause.




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            • #46
              Originally posted by paulf View Post
              How much of an advantage do you guys want Garcia to have? 150? 155? Just curious.
              hard question to answer, what does tank weigh fight night? 140? more? and crying can weigh 146 if he gets it right or less

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              • #47
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                Good post.

                I have had people on here, trying to claim to me? That old school fighters used to weight drain themselves excessively 'Under the same day weigh in rule'. And this was why the 'Day before weigh in rule was created'.

                When this 1000% not the truth. If it was then it would be documented in books, we would of seen it on the movie screens 'I did see these techniques being magnified anywhere in the movie Raging Bull'. And you expect it to be a massive part of historical sporting literature 'But it is not, because Weight draining to the level it is used today is a modern toxic phenomenon'.

                Fighters from past era's would not of been able to fight over 100 fights 'Weighed in on the same day as the fight, while simultaneously draining themselves by 10-20 pounds' They would of not been the fighters they were, or been as active 'Athletes in other sports do not compete under these conditions, because it is not optimal'.

                Because from what I can see in today's modern game, fighters are more challenged by making the weight than the actual fight 'It is a massively monumental part of their preparation, because most of these fighters are not fighting at their natural weight'.

                So the way they train and prepared for fights is abnormal 'It is not conducive for producing great athletes'. Modern day fighters in the lower weight divisions, theoretically even with all the advances in technology and Sport supplementation 'I don't think they are as fit, or have the base conditioning of the past fighters'.

                Never have fighters in the history of boxing, weight drained themselves so excessively and as you have pointed out 'Dangerously'.

                Note: The only real why to impede the toxic weight draining culture is to alter the weigh in rules 'Because it is clearly a bi-product of the day before weigh in rule'.

                This is still a good fight, but it has been unnecessarily devalued due to the re-hydration clause.



                Yeah, I do, however, 100% believe all fight sports are far better off doing day before weigh-ins. There is good science behind this and we would have substantially more severe injuries and deaths if fighters continued to be weighed in on the day of the fight.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by paulf View Post
                  How much of an advantage do you guys want Garcia to have? 150? 155? Just curious.
                  I want him to come in at his best and I want Tank to do the same. Then we see which one is better (regardless of size) on fight night. Wild concept isn't it?

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                  • #49
                    Canelo would have had a very different career if people had been able to place rehydration clauses on him.

                    Maybe boxing could police itself in this area and place a rehydration clause on all fighters. If you weigh in at 140 the day before the fight, you can't be over 147 day of the the fight. What we have with the current system is basically a built in system cheat. If you know what you are doing, you can drain 15-20 pounds of water out of your system in a few days easily. It makes lower weight classes total bull****. Because we often see fights where naturally smaller guys are fighting monsters in the ring on fight night.

                    No doubt Tank will come in feeling strong and healthy at 140-145. Meanwhile Garcia will be drained and he will not feel great. Ryan agreed to it, so there isn't much to say.

                    A standard 7 pound rehydration limit would at least make guys who are way out of the weight class go and fight against guys their own size.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

                      Agree with all points. I would add further that rehydration is a serious health and safety issue in any fight sport. Every non-heavy weight shows up to the weigh-in a dangerously dehydrated state. They simply could not fight safely at the actual weigh-in weight, and that’s why they all rehydrate to 10-15% more of the negotiated weight by fight night. If you made weight on weigh-in night, then you made weight, period. It is the state athletic commissions, if not the sanctioning bodies, that should ban the imposition of rehydration clauses for all fighters’ safety.
                      If that's your point, then fighters being put in dangerous health situations because of weight, that's their fault because they are in the wrong g weight class. They want an advantage as well by being the bigger fight on fight night BECAUSE OF REHYDRATION. THAT'S WHY THR RULES ALLOW THE CLAUSE. It's within Tanks right ti demand the clause. Sheet cuts both ways

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