Comments Thread For: Tommy Fury Overcomes Late Knockdown, Decisions Jake Paul Over Eight

[IronDanHamza]

This is actually the 1st time Jack becomes a legit champ if I'm correct?

I thought all of them were legit?

He beat reigning champions.

[REMOVE SHARK 5510]

Has Tommy pulled out yet?

[famicommander]

I thought all of them were legit?

He beat reigning champions.

His WBA belt was technically a "regular" belt until Andre Ward retired; then it became a full title, but Jack vacated it two days later to challenge Adonis Stevenson for the lineal crown instead. So technically he was full WBA champion, but only for two days.

His super middle and cruiser belts were both full WBC belts won in the ring against full reigning champions, though.

[IronDanHamza]

His WBA belt was technically a "regular" belt until Andre Ward retired; then it became a full title, but Jack vacated it two days later to challenge Adonis Stevenson for the lineal crown instead. So technically he was full WBA champion, but only for two days.

His super middle and cruiser belts were both full WBC belts won in the ring against full reigning champions, though.

I can't keep up with all the belts these days. I wasn't even aware of that.

I'm not a fan of "elevated" champions. I don't consider those scenarios to be real champions.

[James Hunt]

Incorrect.

Jack beat reigning WBC super middleweight champion Anthony Dirrell and defended the title three times before moving up.

Then Jack won the WBA (Regular) light heavyweight title against Cleverly. That's a fake belt, but when Andre Ward retired Jack was elevated to full WBA champion and ordered to face Dmitry Bivol, who had just been elevated from WBA Interim to WBA (Regular). But Jack vacated and instead challenged WBC/lineal champion Adonis Stevenson, so Bivol was upgraded to full WBA champ and then 5 fights later elevated again to WBA (Super) champion.

So, ultimately, he was only full WBA light heavyweight champion for two days until he vacated, but he was recognized as their top champion nonetheless.

Wasn't there a period of time when Bivol was super 175 WBA and Jack regular?

[Damn Wicked]

Fury will probably use a lot of movement. Jake is pretty stationary but Fury's movement might not work for him except to slow down the action and punch output.

Hard to know if this is a 50 -50 fight because we hardly know anything about either guy.

[Superbee]

I switched over to UK commentators….Bradley is beyond cringe

Dude.... Bradley is 6000 miles from there ... What **** are you on ?

[famicommander]

I can't keep up with all the belts these days. I wasn't even aware of that.

I'm not a fan of "elevated" champions. I don't consider those scenarios to be real champions.

That's a fair take but he was, ever so briefly, the top WBA champion at 175. A ton of other "multi-weight" champions have just as dubious claims to one or more of their belts.

I make certain distinctions
A "champion" to me is someone who wins a lineal TBRB or Ring Magazine championship
A "world titlist" is someone who gets the top belt of the WBA, WBC, WBO, or IBF
A "claimant" is someone running around with a truly fake belt (WBA Regular, any interim belt, IBO, etc)

So I consider Jack a legitimate three division world titilst, but he has technically never been a world champion. He should've been at 168, but he got handed a bogus draw against DeGale in their WBC/IBF/vacant Ring/lineal title unification fight.

[4truth]

I can’t keep up with the bullshyt but right now Okolie and Opetaia are levels above either combatant tonight.

[Damn Wicked]

Good choice of walk in music for Fury. Good song.