Bruce Lee the Unbeatable

[PensionKiller]

Stop dodging the video like a *****. You said something about Kung Fu being serious. Go watch the video and then tell me how serious Kung Fu is. A modern day journeyman boxer would take 3 Kung Fu "masters" 3 on 1 and KO them all. Martial arts is a joke just like wing chun.
All martial arts is an obsolete performance art, and a JOKE. They have zero practical application and would get owned on the street by ANY real discipline like boxing or mma.

A good Boxer will beat a good martial artists in a street fight, but I have known friends who use to do martial arts and train in boxing do well aswell. That video seemed very unfair on martial arts because the fighters were obviously poor. I mean the kicks looked like they had no power in them. I know many martial artists who would easily give a boxer a fight if it was like in that video. That being said, I love boxing much more.

[King Flawless]

Kendall Holt would have KO'd Bruce Lee

[hugh grant]

Funny stuff, its obvious that Lee didn't know how to work a heavy bag. His not even using boxing punches, they look like Wing Chun punches.

MOst MMA fighters who hit the heavybag dont look like boxers, and then they are automatically assumed to be not very good.

But Bruce lee and Wong promised not to talk about the fight. When the word got out WOng thought it was bruce lee who bragged, so lied about the outcome, asking for a rematch. Sour g****s.

You have to ask yourself if you had to put your life on it who would you believe? Just looking at lindas body language and describing it is enough for me.

[hugh grant]

Why do you keep doing this? You keep making this vague claims without any sources or names. Where did you read about this? Please give me a book, interview or a name of a witness, so that I can check it out. Bruce's lessons with Joe and Stone were private lessons, no one else was around. So what people are you talking about? Joe has admitted that his sparring partners used to give him hell and his first two trainers used to kick his ass. George Tan has said that Lewis, Urquidez, Miller, Wallace etc, all admitted getting 'lit up', when they started boxing, it's all part of the learning process.Why is he going to lie about not sparring with Lee?

As for Linda Lee and co, what makes her summary of the event anymore reliable, than what Wok Jan Man and his students have said. Isn't this the same Linda Lee, who claimed that the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, was written by Bruce and openly endorsed Dragon the movie?

I think even in Tao of bruce lee someone said they saw bruce beat Joe and Joe said bruce set him up. IN disciples of the dragon Joe Lewis mentions how his girlfriend saw bruce and Joe spar, and Joe Lewis puts his girlfriend down. I will have to check it out.
James Lee describe Lindas version when James was alive to students. Bruce continued to teach gwei lois and he didnt close his schools down.
So most people would agree with Lindas version which never changes, unlike Wongs.

[Adamantium]

MOst MMA fighters who hit the heavybag dont look like boxers, and then they are automatically assumed to be not very good.

But Bruce lee and Wong promised not to talk about the fight. When the word got out WOng thought it was bruce lee who bragged, so lied about the outcome, asking for a rematch. Sour g****s.

You have to ask yourself if you had to put your life on it who would you believe? Just looking at lindas body language and describing it is enough for me.

Is this the same Linda Lee who fleeced millions of fans by releasing a bunch of Bruce lee's private notes, passing them off as the last book, Bruce Lee ever wrote, The Tao of Jeet Kune Do? The same Linda Lee who openly endorsed Dragon? Who made him hashish cookies for Bruce, yet denies Bruce took drugs, who never talks about Bruce Lee's affairs, that Linda Lee?
What makes her a more reliable witness, than Wok Jak Man and all of his students?

[Adamantium]

I think even in Tao of bruce lee someone said they saw bruce beat Joe and Joe said bruce set him up. IN disciples of the dragon Joe Lewis mentions how his girlfriend saw bruce and Joe spar, and Joe Lewis puts his girlfriend down. I will have to check it out.
James Lee describe Lindas version when James was alive to students. Bruce continued to teach gwei lois and he didnt close his schools down.
So most people would agree with Lindas version which never changes, unlike Wongs.

In the Tao of Bruce Lee, Joe tells the story of Bruce lee asking him to execute a kick, so Bruce could slip it and execute a punch. That's it, no fighting or sparring.
Linda Lee is hardly a credible witness as I have pointed out and why does James Lees words carry more weight That Wok Jak Mans and allhis students? Wok Jak Man said the fight was because Bruce issued a challenge to the other martial artists in the Bay area, not because Bruce Lee was teaching non orientals. Wok Jak Man would go on to teach non orientals himself.
Let me now about what Joe Lewis's girlfriend said.

[hugh grant]

Is this the same Linda Lee who fleeced millions of fans by releasing a bunch of Bruce lee's private notes, passing them off as the last book, Bruce Lee ever wrote, The Tao of Jeet Kune Do? The same Linda Lee who openly endorsed Dragon? Who made him hashish cookies for Bruce, yet denies Bruce took drugs, who never talks about Bruce Lee's affairs, that Linda Lee?
What makes her a more reliable witness, than Wok Jak Man and all of his students?

I can remember reading but i heard after about a minute there were attempts to stop the fight by Wongs friends or onlookers. But James Lee warned them off saying let them continue.
There had to be a winner. Silver what do you believe then? There is a 50/50 chance. Linda has described the fight countless times. Wongs versions is more of an underground version.
Bruce even described the fight when he was alive and its the same as Linda. Are you telling me you want people to believe Wong?

[hugh grant]

Is this the same Linda Lee who fleeced millions of fans by releasing a bunch of Bruce lee's private notes, passing them off as the last book, Bruce Lee ever wrote, The Tao of Jeet Kune Do? The same Linda Lee who openly endorsed Dragon? Who made him hashish cookies for Bruce, yet denies Bruce took drugs, who never talks about Bruce Lee's affairs, that Linda Lee?
What makes her a more reliable witness, than Wok Jak Man and all of his students?

In the Tao of Bruce Lee, Joe tells the story of Bruce lee asking him to execute a kick, so Bruce could slip it and execute a punch. That's it, no fighting or sparring.
Linda Lee is hardly a credible witness as I have pointed out and why does James Lees words carry more weight That Wok Jak Mans and allhis students? Wok Jak Man said the fight was because Bruce issued a challenge to the other martial artists in the Bay area, not because Bruce Lee was teaching non orientals. Wok Jak Man would go on to teach non orientals himself.
Let me now about what Joe Lewis's girlfriend said.

I dont doubt that at some point Wong has taught whites because money talks at the end of the day. But i think it was the elders who said if bruce losst he would have to stop teaching whites, rather than Wong saying it.

[Adamantium]

I can remember reading but i heard after about a minute there were attempts to stop the fight by Wongs friends or onlookers. But James Lee warned them off saying let them continue.
There had to be a winner. Silver what do you believe then? There is a 50/50 chance. Linda has described the fight countless times. Wongs versions is more of an underground version.
Bruce even described the fight when he was alive and its the same as Linda. Are you telling me you want people to believe Wong?

I have no problem believing Bruce won, its the reason for the fight i'm not so sure about.
Any luck finding info about the girl who claimed she saw Bruce and Joe sparring?

[hugh grant]

Wall says that Lee was a world class fighter, what does that mean exactly? Being world class and being unbeatable are not the same thing.

Bruce Lee studied boxing, what world boxing champs did he step into the ring with? None.

Bruce Lee was primarily a striker, its a known fact that in close quarters against a grappler, the striker is at a disadvantage. How many top wrestlers/grapplers did Lee spar with? None

Bruce Lee was a striker, the best strikers he trained with were Lewis and Stone. Did he spar with these guys? No

Well he sparred with Joe orbilo ranked 5th in the world and Orbillo was pretty amazed at bruce.
Bob Wall said bruce fought everyone from grapplers to everything else under the sun. So are you arguing with him?
Bruce knew Nishioka and Nishioka said he couldnt beat bruce. Nishioka was a top grappler.
Noone said bruce was unbeatable. Noone is! But theyd put their last dollar on Lee in a confrontation. Bruce said he beleived he could beat anyone. Bruce lee didnt say he was invincible.
James Demile didnt say lee was unbeatable. He said he didnt stand a chance against bruce, and he dont think anyone else would. Demile never said he was unbeatable so dont go upsetting yourself.