Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko Continues To Lash Out at IOC For Allowing Russian Athletes at 2024 Olympics

[Stephankotyk]

Those who are talking about innocent russians and athletes.

1. google how many russian participants in last Olympics were in military ( and still are! )
2. google *****s public speeches and who support it on stage ( hint athletes parading with medals )
3. google how many russian athletes protested against war. Sport is kremlin propaganda tool and you are ****** if you think otherwise

[Chaos]

Wlad is right. Russians should be excluded and if that means the boxers go hungry maybe they will protest against the war, which is good. This should happen. Sports cannot be separated from politics and therefore bloodthirsty dictatorships cannot be allowed to wreak havoc on innocent people without consequences.

End the war, welcome back. Continue the the completely unnecessary war, hurt your own people. It's an easy choice for any reasonable country but as Russia is not one, there needs to be pressure from the outside. IOC is a bunch of wimps for not doing what is right and dancing to Putler's tune.

I assume you had the same view of banning athletes whose countries invade another when the US invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam etc, etc. By that metric Israeli athletes should be banned for life since their country has been attacking its neighbours since its inception.

[Chaos]

Those who are talking about innocent russians and athletes.

1. google how many russian participants in last Olympics were in military ( and still are! )
2. google *****s public speeches and who support it on stage ( hint athletes parading with medals )
3. google how many russian athletes protested against war. Sport is kremlin propaganda tool and you are ****** if you think otherwise

How many American athletes protested the illegal Iraq war?

[CasperUK]

Wladimir comes across as a very entitled, boojie snob.

[letsgochump]

I assume you had the same view of banning athletes whose countries invade another when the US invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam etc, etc. By that metric Israeli athletes should be banned for life since their country has been attacking its neighbours since its inception.

With Vietnam as it was a sham, yes but with Afghanistan, no. I have friends from there and the Taleban system is horrible and the people deserve to be saved. It's awful for the people there.

Iraq was also a horrible dictatorship under a bloodthirsty man who was trying to acquire nuclear weapons to use on its enemies. So probably not there either. It is different when a country is run by oppressive dictators or the military that abuse their own people. Ukraine is a democracy unlike these countries in the middle east that are essentially run by violent *********s.

Israeli athletes should probably be banned but even there the conflict isn't as ridiculously plain as it is in Ukraine. The invention of the Israeli state was madness and a mistake but then again hindsight is 20-20. Israel is now surrounded by openly hostile factions and they have had to fight for their lives already and this obviously leaves a mark on the nation. It doesn't justify the violence towards civilians but the conflict goes deep and there is mutual violence. Nobody is interested in invading Russia in Europe though and the only risk to safety in Europe is Russia and Russia alone. Ukraine posed no threat whatsoever to Russia.

I do get your point though and on principle I do agree with the logic of it but as with everything, it's not very practical to follow broad categories and instead you have to use case-by-case approach with such things.

[bullydean]

Great article to find the Russian bots and brain dead Fox viewers!

[TheBoxingFan]

Iraq was also a horrible dictatorship under a bloodthirsty man who was trying to acquire nuclear weapons to use on its enemies. So probably not there either. It is different when a country is run by oppressive dictators or the military that abuse their own people. Ukraine is a democracy unlike these countries in the middle east that are essentially run by violent *********s.

Ask any Iraqi person today and they would choose that "horrible dictatorship" that gave them free education, healthcare, housing to the chaos, ********* bombing and poverty the US invasion brought.

As for the nuclear weapons, that was proven 15 years ago to be a manufactured lie and no WMD, evidence of uranium or anything else was found.

[Oregonian]

Wlad is right. Russians should be excluded and if that means the boxers go hungry maybe they will protest against the war, which is good. This should happen. Sports cannot be separated from politics and therefore bloodthirsty dictatorships cannot be allowed to wreak havoc on innocent people without consequences.

End the war, welcome back. Continue the the completely unnecessary war, hurt your own people. It's an easy choice for any reasonable country but as Russia is not one, there needs to be pressure from the outside. IOC is a bunch of wimps for not doing what is right and dancing to Putler's tune.

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I hope you feel the same way about the US and we’re just as vocal. The IOC is a bunch of wimps for not excluding the US from at least 4 Olympics since 2003. You know, considering the completely unnecessary war, as you astutely stated.
Also, unlike Russia, how many nations has the US invaded since 1970?

[Oregonian]

With Vietnam as it was a sham, yes but with Afghanistan, no. I have friends from there and the Taleban system is horrible and the people deserve to be saved. It's awful for the people there.

Iraq was also a horrible dictatorship under a bloodthirsty man who was trying to acquire nuclear weapons to use on its enemies. So probably not there either. It is different when a country is run by oppressive dictators or the military that abuse their own people. Ukraine is a democracy unlike these countries in the middle east that are essentially run by violent *********s.

Israeli athletes should probably be banned but even there the conflict isn't as ridiculously plain as it is in Ukraine. The invention of the Israeli state was madness and a mistake but then again hindsight is 20-20. Israel is now surrounded by openly hostile factions and they have had to fight for their lives already and this obviously leaves a mark on the nation. It doesn't justify the violence towards civilians but the conflict goes deep and there is mutual violence. Nobody is interested in invading Russia in Europe though and the only risk to safety in Europe is Russia and Russia alone. Ukraine posed no threat whatsoever to Russia.

I do get your point though and on principle I do agree with the logic of it but as with everything, it's not very practical to follow broad categories and instead you have to use case-by-case approach with such things.

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If we’re going to use our friends … I have friends from Afghanistan who sat the opposite of what you say. I also have friends from Iraq who disagree with your myopic views.

Based on your response, I could bring up the overthrow of a ********ically elected President in Iran in 1953 by the US and you’d find ways to justify that. I could mention Iran-Iraq war, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Chile, the assassination of Patrice Lumumba of Zaire by the CIA, etc and you’d still find ways to excuse the US.

[letsgochump]

Ask any Iraqi person today and they would choose that "horrible dictatorship" that gave them free education, healthcare, housing to the chaos, ********* bombing and poverty the US invasion brought.

As for the nuclear weapons, that was proven 15 years ago to be a manufactured lie and no WMD, evidence of uranium or anything else was found.

Sure, it was not the case as we now know. But the intelligence was there and they had legit reasons to fear and suspect it. The reason why the risk was severe was that Saddam was a proven killer and warmongerer so nuclear weapons in his hands would have been a complete disaster for the rest of the world. The war was probably a mistake but we don't know what would have happened afterwards.

However they have learned at least and not repeating the same mistakes w Iran who had their own nuclear program.