If Fury ducks Usyk and fights Wilder again i'm DONE with him

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  • elfag
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    #91
    Usyk is demanding 50-50 for Fury but his first AJ fight he took 20-80.


    Fury has been generous offering him 40-60 and if he doesnt accept its a flat out duck.

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      #92
      Originally posted by elfag
      Usyk is demanding 50-50 for Fury but his first AJ fight he took 20-80.


      Fury has been generous offering him 40-60 and if he doesnt accept its a flat out duck.
      Frank's probably offering him 25

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        #93
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        You try and be objective, who has Franklin ever beat??? He’s never proved himself at any level. Trevor Bryan literally has a better resume and that says a lot.

        Franklin wouldn’t even be a step up from Gorman tbh, he’s about the same level.
        A lot of people think he beat Dillian Whyte, do you think Nathan Gorman could do that?

        Trevor Bryon does not have a better resume. They would be about equal in that respect if Bryan hadn't got obliterated the first time he stepped up to world level while Franklin was very competitive against Whyte.

        If you want to play the "who has he ever beat" game, without giving any respect to losing performances, I could ask you who has Wilder ever beat to justify you rating him higher than AJ?

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          #94
          Originally posted by elfag
          Usyk is demanding 50-50 for Fury but his first AJ fight he took 20-80.


          You do know that Usyk won the first AJ fight and made over $50 million as defending unified champ in the rematch, yeah?

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            #95
            Originally posted by denium
            If Fury ducks Usyk and fights Wilder again i'm DONE with him.
            Splits always have to do with drawing power. You can have all the titles in the world and people on it won't give a flying carabao. It's business, not a sport.

            Too melodramatic ado about nothing.

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              #96
              Originally posted by kafkod

              A lot of people think he beat Dillian Whyte, do you think Nathan Gorman could do that?

              Trevor Bryon does not have a better resume. They would be about equal in that respect if Bryan hadn't got obliterated the first time he stepped up to world level while Franklin was very competitive against Whyte.

              If you want to play the "who has he ever beat" game, without giving any respect to losing performances, I could ask you who has Wilder ever beat to justify you rating him higher than AJ?
              He didn’t beat Whyte. Whyte is nearly 35 and coming off his third bad stoppage loss. Being competitive with Whyte doesn’t prove anything. Mariusz Wach was competitive with Whyte.

              Bryan at least has wins over Guidry and Stiverne, that’s way better than any win on Franklin’s resume? Seriously what’s Franklin’s best win?

              You really think Franklin could keep Wardley off him? What attributes does Franklin really have? Franklin couldn’t win a British title. I know you’re an AJ fan, but be honest man, this is a trash fight. The same way Chisora 3 was a trash fight for Fury.

              Wilder/AJ are interchangeable for me, Wilder has several wins against top 5 guys. Stiverne and Ortiz were both universally ranked top 5. Franklin hasn’t even beat anyone rated top 50.

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                #97
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                He didn’t beat Whyte. Whyte is nearly 35 and coming off his third bad stoppage loss. Being competitive with Whyte doesn’t prove anything. Mariusz Wach was competitive with Whyte.

                Bryan at least has wins over Guidry and Stiverne, that’s way better than any win on Franklin’s resume? Seriously what’s Franklin’s best win?

                You really think Franklin could keep Wardley off him? What attributes does Franklin really have? Franklin couldn’t win a British title. I know you’re an AJ fan, but be honest man, this is a trash fight. The same way Chisora 3 was a trash fight for Fury.

                Wilder/AJ are interchangeable for me, Wilder has several wins against top 5 guys. Stiverne and Ortiz were both universally ranked top 5. Franklin hasn’t even beat anyone rated top 50.
                Lol ... Stiverne and Ortiz are overweight, middle -aged crocks.
                Last edited by kafkod; 02-16-2023, 01:19 PM.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by kafkod

                  Lol ... Stiverne and Ortiz are overweight, middle -aged crocks.
                  I thought we were being objective… both ranked top 5 by Ring and TBRB when Wilder beat them.

                  Franklin on the other hand, isn’t ranked anywhere, he’s not top 10/15 with Ring, TBRB, ESPN, even the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and IBO don’t rate him.

                  I get you’re an AJ fan but be honest with yourself, Franklin is a trash opponent. Even the ticket sales reflect it.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    I thought we were being objective… both ranked top 5 by Ring and TBRB when Wilder beat them.

                    Franklin on the other hand, isn’t ranked anywhere, he’s not top 10/15 with Ring, TBRB, ESPN, even the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and IBO don’t rate him.

                    I get you’re an AJ fan but be honest with yourself, Franklin is a trash opponent. Even the ticket sales reflect it.
                    He is still much more logical opponent than Fury fighting Chisora the third time for WBC belt.

                    AJ is not a champ. he can do whatever he wants. And I was never his fan.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                      He is still much more logical opponent than Fury fighting Chisora the third time for WBC belt.

                      AJ is not a champ. he can do whatever he wants. And I was never his fan.
                      I’m not saying it’s more/less logical. I’m saying it’s a mismatch, just like Fury-Chisora 3 was a mismatch.

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