What people who keep saying dud wasn’t offered a gaurantee arent very smart. He was offered to be a partner. He’s gonna get an agreed upon % of the profits. Over a certain buy rate that percentage goes up. If he really believes in himself why wouldn’t he take that deal? Spence isn’t getting a gaurantee either. Dud can’t sell snow to an Eskimo. No one wants to take massive losses on his fights except tards like BLK who well probably never see again and no one even actually saw anyways. Also duds “win” over the euro bum gonna get overturned cause the loaded glove lol. I don’t understand this. If dud really thinks he can beat spence why not take a % sell the fight make it huge and you could conceivably make any gaurantee look paltry? Then after he beats spence like many of u think he’s top dog. He can command any salary cause he would be THAT guy. He won’t do it tho. Cause him and everyone in boxing knows he don’t want the fight. Like beat spence like u say. Then go up to 154 and beat up charlo. 2 huuuge fights for him. Beat spence and the charlo fight is worth triple due to the storyline of him and Spence being both Derrick james fighters. He only want to beat up bums tho. Dud isn’t a dummy. He duckin spence but I won’t say he’s dumb. Man has made a pretty penny beating up cab drivers why would he change what’s been working for him? Spence is a whole nother level dud duckford hasn’t seen. They didn’t expect him to thrash ugas like that.
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Espinoza is basically saying the PBC panel didn't do a good job when he said, "...in order for this to be a productive thing moving forward, there’s got to be a different way of going about it than sitting there and going an inch at a time over months and months."STREET CLEANER likes this.
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Originally posted by sjic2 View PostStephen Espinoza, the head of Showtime Sports, the cable network that would most likely stage Spence-Crawford. Haymon’s PBC has an exclusive output deal with Showtime, which makes Espinoza a natural ally of Spence....as long as there is a 'money making relationship'.
That is a fact.
And the next fact is that, 'the big phishing fraud, that is Errol 'the tooth' Spence', really believes that he is running things.
Errol 'the tooth' Spence, obviously, thinks that he is a Floyd Mayweather clone, who is an elite boxer, and boxing promoter businessman who answers to no one.
(But Al Haymon, and PBC)
Fact, he is not, and will never ever be that, because he can't even open his mouth to talk, he is a Tongue-tied mumble-ler,
who has never had an original thought, much lest articulated it.
Errol 'the tooth' Spence, would never out-fight Terence 'Bud' Crawford, because he cannot out-think or out-talk him, inside or outside of a boxing ring.
(Has Spence ever gotten paid 10 mil, for fighting a cherry?)
Errol 'the tooth' Spence cannot...will not, come back down from 154 lb. to 147 lb., and if he does it will only be for the 'pay day', so....
TBC, should put 'the big phishing fraud, that is Errol 'the tooth' Spence Jr.' in the 'rear view mirror' and keep him there, and continue to build his legacy by fighting and beating 2-3 more 'unbeaten, undefeated up and coming hot-shots, because at this point, he don't need em.
Fact.
"It's not personal Sonny, it's business"
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Its well known espinoza a 'weasel' just as terrence 'lack of transparency' crawford not wanting any 'truth' smoke for time being.
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Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post
That's what you took away from it?
Crawford making demands he was never in a position to make, then taking his precious time responding to offers with a concession or counter-offer...likely because he was also negotiating the Avanesyan deal.
Bud will be 36 this year. Take a look at his resume. The level of opposition speaks for itself.
This right here
The level of opposition speaks for itself. This is the gospel truth.
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Well, like him or not, Espinoza is a significant factor or deal maker in negotiations.
From what he said, I interpret it as this, either Crawford accepts that he's the B side and gets a smaller slice of a big pie, or it ain't happening.
At least they did talk. Thinking back, Lewis vs Bowe, that was never negotiated. I would like to have seen Bowe vs Tyson, but I think they were buddies, and Foreman-Tyson, that didn't happen.
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