Long time Boxing fan here. Boxing is so boring to me right now.

[baroidi]

Welcome to the post Mayweather/Social Media era of Boxing. Fighters aren't willing to risk a loss by fighting the best, and these youtubers are getting more hype from the general public than actual top fighters.

[PBR Streetgang]

If you like watching bums vs bums, that's your prerogative. I like watching the best vs best. What happened to the Oscar de la Hoyas, Miguel cottos, Shane mosleys, Diego Corrales, Bernard Hopkins of the world. This is the weakest boxing has ever looked to me, EVER.

The fact you'd call anything but the superstars bums tells me all I need to know.

It's real simple: casual fan wants pretty looking records (regardless if it was the result of careful matchmaking and promotional backing), fighters unwilling to risk loss against tough fighters unless they are overpaid because they don't want to risk that pretty record that the casual loves so much, casual fan complains no big fights. Casual fan who loves the pretty records and also the big fights claim boxing is dying and UFC (where most of the fighters catch losses) is taking over.

[War Room]

No good fights to be made. It's crazy to me how people are falling for the fake hype some fighters are getting. Besides spence and Crawford, there's really no real killers in boxing. Tank Davis vs Stevenson is probably the only other fight I want to see. Those are the only 4 fighters who really do stand above the rest. Please do not mention devin Haney.

The heavy weight division is nothing but bums. No good fights are being made. Anything to be excited for? Seriously.

I mean where's all the Puerto Rican fighters at? What about all the Mexican killers. Where are they at? there's very few fighters who stand above the rest. Hell even though I like tank, he was getting whooped every minute of every round by Rolly. If tank ever fights someone with a granite chin it will be a replay of Canelo VS Bivol. Canelo thought the KO would come but it never did and he lost.

Please do not mention vergil Ortiz, he'd get whooped by Ennis, who himself isn't as good as the hype he's getting. And please don't mention Ryan Garcia for the love of God. He's Amir Khan 2.0.

Am I the only one who currently thinks boxing is in a bad state? It's so boring for me right now.

You're bored but seems like you've got your mind made up against any possible arguments to counter your perceived boredom.

I'll be honest, I've seen some new really hot prospects on unercards recently, like green prospects, but heavily talented. You just have to watch closer.

Haney, Shakur, Teo, Prograis, Ryan 'A-Side' Garcia, Tank are all at points where they're being forced to be in good fights. A little patience will go a long way here.

HW division imo is pretty exciting. Some new talent coming up and the top guys are fun imo. Fury, Wilder, AJ, Joyce are boring to you??

Ortiz can definitely beat Boots.

Young Khan was extremely fierce and an exceptional talent. I think Ryan is an excellent fighter. So what he got dropped, you're acting like he got stopped. He got off the canvas and stopped the guy with a body shot =---> of all shots!

The only thing hurting boxing right now was a bit of cancelations, other than that =---> boxing is bubblin and ready to pop in 2023.

[3rdcharlotwin]

Been a boxing fan for over 20 years & the sport is at it's weakest I recall. Alot of "p4p" fighters wouldn't even break top 20, 10 years ago based on how little they fight or do. There is impressive talent out there with most failing to have impressive careers.

Spence is overrated in skills, Crawford is pure talent but has underwhelming competition based on his status. Media & fans like to act like they're the new Leonard & Hearns both their biggest wins is against Porter. Seen many times refer to the Lightweight division as the modern 4 kings..alot of them are still developing and haven't archived close to the same greatness.

The fact that Tank-Garcia is one of the biggest fights to be made says alot when neither have had a truly note worthy win, neither a true champs, neither a p4p & neither are even the best in their own division(s). I guess boxing is one gigantic popularity contest.

The fact that Fury-Usyk isn't even the biggest fight at HW & they're both undefeated champs. Fans got more excited about the idea of Fury-Joyce..or Fury-AJ..or even Wilder-AJ.

The fact that Canelo-GGG III farce was the "biggest" fight of the year is telling.

Boxing has become obsessed with numbers..whether that be how many titles you can collect, how many divisions you can pick, how much money you're making, how many PPV sales you have..how many followers do you have.
Networks & promoters telling us who are "stars" & who is not. Even fighters believe in their own hype. Fact is Canelo & AJ may be the ONLY "PPV stars" in boxing & both their marketabilities would have been hurt with recent loses and performances.


Crawford-Spence may also be one of the biggest fights to be made in the sport & I doubt even that fight does good PPV numbers.

Every fighter thinks they're stars, greater than what they are & PPV worthy. I feel the only thing that is PPV worthy these days aren't really any individual fighters but more a particular fight itself. Even the biggest names need a good dance partner..and there aren't many willing or good dance partners to go around for deluded, entitled "fighters" to create the drama & excitement needed for any competitive sport.

A fighter fighting twice a year is considered a busy year and if you happen to be competing once every 3 months you get a pat on the back for such a gruelling schedule.

Boxing has hit an atrocious low with an era full of Mayweather-like greediness, exhibitions, socialmedia/Youtubers, best not fighting the best. Pathetic.

It feels 70% of the "sport" takes place through headlines, rumours, tweets, interviews, press conferences & gossip..while the other 30% is taken inside the ring. Boxing is not only a business, it's not only a bad soap opera now but become one big reality show too!

Boxing has taken a big nose dive in recent years and putting talent & prospects aside, there isn't many, if any mega fight to be made.

[MikeyG]

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[Hustle]

No good fights to be made. It's crazy to me how people are falling for the fake hype some fighters are getting. Besides spence and Crawford, there's really no real killers in boxing. Tank Davis vs Stevenson is probably the only other fight I want to see. Those are the only 4 fighters who really do stand above the rest. Please do not mention devin Haney.

The heavy weight division is nothing but bums. No good fights are being made. Anything to be excited for? Seriously.

I mean where's all the Puerto Rican fighters at? What about all the Mexican killers. Where are they at? there's very few fighters who stand above the rest. Hell even though I like tank, he was getting whooped every minute of every round by Rolly. If tank ever fights someone with a granite chin it will be a replay of Canelo VS Bivol. Canelo thought the KO would come but it never did and he lost.

Please do not mention vergil Ortiz, he'd get whooped by Ennis, who himself isn't as good as the hype he's getting. And please don't mention Ryan Garcia for the love of God. He's Amir Khan 2.0.

Am I the only one who currently thinks boxing is in a bad state? It's so boring for me right now.

Its definitely boring right now.

But it's plenty of great fights to make. The fighters just don't wanna fight tough fights

Crawford vs Spence undisputed
Fury vs Usyk undisputed
Bivol vs Beterbiev undisputed
Haney vs Tank undisputed
Canelo vs Benavidez undisputed

Fulton vs Inoue 122
Charlo vs Andrade catchweight between 160 and 168
Wilder vs Joshua
Prograis vs Teofimo
Shakur vs Lomachenko


I could go on and on

[nghtmr111]

I think OP’s main point is that there’s nothing significant going on with the ‘big’ names. All the best fights that should happen aren’t happening. For fvkk’s sake we never even got Loma vs Mikey…

i agree there’s some exciting fights happening.

Mauricio Lara vs Leigh Wood is going to be madness.

but god damn it’s absolutely absurd the amount of fights that aren’t happening….

[buddyr]

The problem with the sport is that Fighters are getting paid too much to fight Cherry picks. Cherry picks should get you know more than 300 400k and fighting a top guy should get you a million plus. Until the economics of that change a lot of guys just ain't got to fight the best. That's the problem in the sport.

This is basically it. If a fighter can get paid MILLIONS for fighting 2 cherry picks a year while being celebrated for it by their ***riding dumbazz fanbase, why the F*K would they want to fight the best and risk losing?

[3rdcharlotwin]

Its definitely boring right now.

But it's plenty of great fights to make. The fighters just don't wanna fight tough fights

Crawford vs Spence undisputed
Fury vs Usyk undisputed
Bivol vs Beterbiev undisputed
Haney vs Tank undisputed
Canelo vs Benavidez undisputed

Fulton vs Inoue 122
Charlo vs Andrade catchweight between 160 and 168
Wilder vs Joshua
Prograis vs Teofimo
Shakur vs Lomachenko


I could go on and on

Alot of Unification fights to be made which is actually very good for boxing but what isn't is CW. Don't care to see that in the sport.

Crawford-Spence has already lost some shine
Fury-Usyk would be an ugly looking fight
Bivol-Beterbiev is where it's at



Those are some solid matchups you mentioned..but in reality out of those 10 fights, we'll probably only get 2 of them

[Tatabanya]

I started in the early 70s and was excited to watch the Rumble in the Jungle at 10 with my dad.

Lived through the golden era of the 70s and the 80s, while buying all the boxing magazines and books I could get my hands on. At the same time, I started collecting boxing footage.

I'm still here in spite of the mounting crap. Still reading, still watching, still collecting footage. And playing the Pick Em League at almost 60 with friends who, in some cases, could be my sons or, at the very least, little brothers.

You have to savor the essence of boxing, man. Whatever the era, ***** and all. Deliver yourself from nostalgia (I suffer from that, too, mind you) and just enjoy the fights.