How big would Oscar have been in this social media era?

[The Big Dunn]

I think with everything you stated , he would of been larger than life
People would call him a *** while checking his Instagram
The ***** would have him on a pedestal
I can see his face on milk boxes , cereals and all over the gay community
Call it what you will but imo that would put him over the top

That is an interesting way to look at it. I cant see how he has the same commercial success.

He wasnt out. His bisexuality seems to be connected to the coke addiction, which makes it hard to celebrat

[MONGOOSE66]

Some people may not know or might have been too young when Oscar was a bona-fide superstar. He had the boxing skill and looks, he was appearing on main stream commercials before he even went pro shortly after his Gold medal win. He was a darling of the media, all of Hollywood loved him. I remember seeing actor's who weren't even boxing fans at fights. Guys like Paulie shore, Brad Pitt, Tom cruise etc would all come out to see Oscar fight. And ofcourse the huge female fan base that he had aswell.

Wonder how much more bigger Oscar would have been in today's social media era.

Who give a fook, except teenage BOYS

[The Big Dunn]

Definitely not. One loss would have destroyed Floyd’s USP. After 4/5 losses Oscar was still selling millions. On top of that, I’m not sure Mayweather ever becomes as big as he was without fighting Oscar.

I was debating him with SRL for 3rd place, both had very similar rises to stardom but again if SRL loses to Hearns, Duran and Hagler does he remain the top star in the sport? Oscar had a wider fanbase too IMO.

Ali, Mike and Oscar were the only 3 superstar fighters I felt it didn’t really matter whether they won or lost in regards to their star power.

I dont understand how losses make Floyd less popular. All it means is he cant market the record the way he did. Its like your suggesting Floyd fans only like him for the 0.

Agree with that point but the fact remains he did numbers ODH could only dream about. You cant just throw away 4 million sales. Hell even the Cotto fight exceeded most of ODH’s best numbers.

I dont think you can underestimate how big Ray was after Montreal Olympics. Given no 1980 Olympics, he was the top Olympian for 8 years at a time when boxing was a major sport.

Ok, I see your point. Ali and ODH had the benefit of the Gold Medal.

[MulaKO]

That is an interesting way to look at it. I cant see how he has the same commercial success.

He wasnt out. His bisexuality seems to be connected to the coke addiction, which makes it hard to celebrat

People love misery
It takes them away from their own downfalls
I just think he’d be huge especially if the woke community is around and all
Now a days everyone is like let bygones be bygones when in all reality it is just their way of hiding their own bullchit lol

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I dont understand how losses make Floyd less popular. All it means is he cant market the record the way he did. Its like your suggesting Floyd fans only like him for the 0.

Agree with that point but the fact remains he did numbers ODH could only dream about. You cant just throw away 4 million sales. Hell even the Cotto fight exceeded most of ODH’s best numbers.

I dont think you can underestimate how big Ray was after Montreal Olympics. Given no 1980 Olympics, he was the top Olympian for 8 years at a time when boxing was a major sport.

Ok, I see your point. Ali and ODH had the benefit of the Gold Medal.

Most people tuned in to watch Floyd lose or at least hoping to watch him lose. He played the villain and played it perfectly.

There’s no way Mayweather does those numbers with a couple of losses, IMO anyway. The 0 was massively important to the Mayweather marketing campaign.

[IronDanHamza]

Oscar is the third biggest boxing star ever IMO. He lost the vast majority of his biggest fights yet still remained the biggest star in the sport.

1. Ali.
2. Tyson.
3. Oscar.

Struggle to see the logic in Oscar being a bigger star than Mayweather?

Both from the PPV Era, but their numbers aren't comparable.

[IronDanHamza]

Most people tuned in to watch Floyd lose or at least hoping to watch him lose. He played the villain and played it perfectly.

There’s no way Mayweather does those numbers with a couple of losses, IMO anyway. The 0 was massively important to the Mayweather marketing campaign.

That's like saying there's no way Oscar does those numbers without his smile.

Mayweather didn't lose and that was a key part of his marketability so that's a moot point.

[The Big Dunn]

People love misery
It takes them away from their own downfalls
I just think he’d be huge especially if the woke community is around and all
Now a days everyone is like let bygones be bygones when in all reality it is just their way of hiding their own bullchit lol

Ok. As long as he wins Gold under the same context (mom dying of cancer) he did in 92, he surely is popular regardless of the other stuff.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Struggle to see the logic in Oscar being a bigger star than Mayweather?

Both from the PPV Era, but their numbers aren't comparable.

I’m not going off the numbers. I’m going off who had more star power. The fact Oscar retained such star power despite losing all of his biggest fights is a massive factor for me. I think one loss would have crippled Floyd’s star power personally.

[The Big Dunn]

Most people tuned in to watch Floyd lose or at least hoping to watch him lose. He played the villain and played it perfectly.

There’s no way Mayweather does those numbers with a couple of losses, IMO anyway. The 0 was massively important to the Mayweather marketing campaign.

Respectfully, that has never been supported by the data. Floyd sold millions against opponents that he was heavily favored against. Im sure he sold to haters but the overwhelming number of fans liked him despite him playing the villain role.

Check the ODH pre fight buildup. Floyd did many fan friendly events even though he talked bad about ODH. People seem to forget that Actions speak louder than words.

It was important to those that hate Floyd and to how Floyd marketed himself. Ali marketed himself as the greatest- that didnt change when he lost. His popularity didnt drop.

I doubt Floyd stops calling himself TBE should he have lost. I also dont see how a loss lowers the fan interest in any of his 5-7 biggest fights.