How big would Oscar have been in this social media era?

[Regge]

A loss to Fishnets makes sense as that launched him. I still think it is a mistake to try to deflate his fanbase.

I get he cant market the record, but he still had the skills and talent. Maybe he uses the Olympic robbery to market himself.

Fair point, but when he got the stage, he showed tremendous charisma. He was also way ahead of other boxers using social media.

You sound like Oscar ****d youre wife and sister back to back.

[TheIronMike]

Oscar would have been canceled today after news of him fuxking an underage minor got out

[MONGOOSE66]

You give a fuxk cuz you replied.

You probably admire Floyd's high heels don't ya.

Floyd has high heels? I guess you not only care about teens social media. You also care about men wearing high heels. LOL.

[The Big Dunn]

You sound like Oscar ****d youre wife and sister back to back.

By agreeing with RJJ that a loss to Coka dela 8 ball would impact Floyds marketability.

Ok, if you say so.

[The Big Dunn]

Nah, Oscar not bigger than Joe Louis

Joe Louis had the entire nation including the President of the United States calling him to beat Max Schmelling

Hell, the whole world was rooting for him to beat Hitler & The ****s

He was a war hero, America's first Black superstar, and the heavyweight champ for 12 years when there was only 1 champion

By far the biggest star in all of sports for the entirety of the 1940s.

He's like if you crossed Michael Jordan with what The Klitschkos are doing in Ukraine right now.

And Sugar Ray Leonard's gotta get some consideration too.

He was making the equivalent of $30 million back when the HW champ (Holmes) was making peanuts in comparison



Yeah, but more people were watching boxing in the '90s than in the 2010s when Floyd was at his peak celebrity.

When Oscar was fighting, athletes were legit celebrities.

I think it's close though.

Oscar was the biggest star when boxing was still a top 4 or 5 sport in America

Floyd was the biggest star when boxing was more of a niche sport and he was the only real star in it.

I guess they're about even.

Floyd is as big a celebrity as there is. Agree that ODH was a huge star when boxing was bigger, but Floyd was the athlete that earned the most a couple of years despite boxing not occupying the same space.

That to me indicates his star power is massive.

Floyd took off when hip hop became the top form of music in America. He also used social media better than any other boxer.

Coka definitely was bigger outside the urban communities.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Nah, Oscar not bigger than Joe Louis

Joe Louis had the entire nation including the President of the United States calling him to beat Max Schmelling

Hell, the whole world was rooting for him to beat Hitler & The ****s

He was a war hero, America's first Black superstar, and the heavyweight champ for 12 years when there was only 1 champion

By far the biggest star in all of sports for the entirety of the 1940s.

He's like if you crossed Michael Jordan with what The Klitschkos are doing in Ukraine right now.

And Sugar Ray Leonard's gotta get some consideration too.

He was making the equivalent of $30 million back when the HW champ (Holmes) was making peanuts in comparison



Yeah, but more people were watching boxing in the '90s than in the 2010s when Floyd was at his peak celebrity.

When Oscar was fighting, athletes were legit celebrities.

I think it's close though.

Oscar was the biggest star when boxing was still a top 4 or 5 sport in America

Floyd was the biggest star when boxing was more of a niche sport and he was the only real star in it.

I guess they're about even.

Louis is a good shout tbf. It’s very hard to compare though because times were so different. I’ll revise my statement to the 3 biggest stars post War or in the last 60 years.

[Cobra Curry]

Oscar is the third biggest boxing star ever IMO. He lost the vast majority of his biggest fights yet still remained the biggest star in the sport.

1. Ali.
2. Tyson.
3. Oscar.

A genuine star no doubt, but Ray Leonard was bigger surely?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

A genuine star no doubt, but Ray Leonard was bigger surely?

It’s close for sure. I’ve already been over it several times in this thread as to why I believe Oscar is number 3 and I don’t really wanna go down that rabbit hole again tbh.

For reference though, SRL was a very close 4th and I think there’s a definite argument to put him 3rd.

[The D3vil]

Floyd is as big a celebrity as there is. Agree that ODH was a huge star when boxing was bigger, but Floyd was the athlete that earned the most a couple of years despite boxing not occupying the same space.

That to me indicates his star power is massive.

Floyd took off when hip hop became the top form of music in America. He also used social media better than any other boxer.

Coka definitely was bigger outside the urban communities.

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I disagree with Floyd being as big a celebrity as there is.

He has no endorsements, so grandmothers may not know who they are unless they're Black & have sons/grandsons talking about boxing.

Floyd's not as big of a celebrity as say LeBron or Tom Brady in this country.

Hip-Hop's been dominating since the '90s. That's no new thing

Eminem, 2pac, Snoop, and Biggie and Jay Z are all the most famous rappers ever. They're all '90s rappers

Social media is still a niche world. There's still lots of people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s who don't have social media.

Floyd's super famous to young people, Black people, and people who are sports fans.

In the past, it was easier to be famous to everybody because everybody watched the same channels.

Louis is a good shout tbf. It’s very hard to compare though because times were so different. I’ll revise my statement to the 3 biggest stars post War or in the last 60 years.

Right.