Is Alvarez a Mid-Level ATG OR High-Level ATG

[garfios]

uh ward clearly ducked a lot of people. they literally litigated this in court and the truth came out. hbo wanted him to fight certain guys and on that list were ggg, bute, froch rematch. ward said i dont have to fight who you want, i want to figth dmitri sartison. wards own promoter said this under oath and won the case because ward was claiming he couldnt get any fights but in reality he couldn't get the fights he wanted aka the easy ones. thats the whole reason hbo kicked ward off the network. now no one is going to kick canelo off their network because he simply generates too much money while ward does not. thats the only real difference. ward was forced to take on kovalev because he was in no mans land fighting on BET and the only way back on was to agree to fight kov. ward wanted the easy path after the super six(which was setup in his favor btw) but he wasnt able to get it. canelo knows he has the easy path and nothing can derail him. he has too much power.

You maybe right, but I think ggg wasn't in his weight class at the time or any other time for that matter, ggg never had the inclination to move up in weight, and bute? That would have been money in the bank. He wanted to get rid of his promoter and went about the wrong way. If you have prime kovalev twice, Froch, Abraham and Kessler in your resume, there's no much ducking he has done. Then again everyone has an opinion. Thanks for remind me of that episode.
ps. Last time he fought as a MW was in 2006, his 10th fight and ggg was debuting. Don't see the ducking. And the demand was about the Ali Act and arbitration denied in a technicality, something to do with the language of the contract.

[garfios]

he isn't trashing anything.


Ward is one handed and it's attached to a pillow.

without headbutts, low blows, clinching, holding and hitting, he's dumpster juice.

I think you're right, canelo would have never signed the contract.

[moochi]

Not high, not mid and not low ATG.

An ATG for his excellent marketing and movement and not to mention proven PED usage.

When these questions are made I normally ask myself whether ppl will talk about this boxer after he retires... the only thing ppl may talk about was how good he fooled everyone.

[hhh1200]

Hold on but didn't Ward also beat British "slugs" hahaahhha

Froch, Kessler and Arthur > Saunders, Sweet Cheeks, Smith

Have to mix and match for comparison.

You're confusing the generation of fighters Ward fought vs the slugs Canelo fought.

[Regge]

You don't have to be American for the media to low the bar. Look a canelo. And I stand by my believe that he would have trashed canelo, if he has the balls to sign the contract, for the looks of him he would have avoided him like the plague, he was as big as him, taller and rougher and a better boxer. Keep loving that fraud and don't mention benavidez next to that bully, he might have a heart attack.
he fought kovalev in his prime and fought him again right away. You can't say the same for ginger, always cherrypicking and favored by the judges, didn't he lose twice with ggg, and he was on ped's? And again waited him out for the third fight, he wanted to make sure he was fighting a senior citizen. I can't belive canelo's fans are critiquing a fighter that never ducked anyone.

Ward nevr faced anyone and the minute GGg and Bivol and Betterbieve were on the rise he said I'm cool and retired with a weak ass resume full of average bums.

But yea you'll only look at it that way if it was canelo right lol you haters are too predictable but you keep defending that narcissistic bigot.

[Regge]

Froch, Kessler and Arthur > Saunders, Sweet Cheeks, Smith

Have to mix and match for comparison.

You're confusing the generation of fighters Ward fought vs the slugs Canelo fought.

Those are slugs you dummy hahahhahah

[Haka]

Just how great is the Alvarez

Around the level of Pirog.

[Dr. Z]

Just how great is the Alvarez

He is a PED drug cheat and boxing's golden goose who has been gifted or has robbed some of his opponents. Maybe his opponents do not care because they have been PAID a lot of money to fight him.

His resume is upper level. He is in fact a lower level great fighter if there is such a term.

[garfios]

Ward nevr faced anyone and the minute GGg and Bivol and Betterbieve were on the rise he said I'm cool and retired with a weak ass resume full of average bums.

But yea you'll only look at it that way if it was canelo right lol you haters are too predictable but you keep defending that narcissistic bigot.

If Kessler, Froch and Abraham are not anyone, then canelo is a circus act, wait it's a circus. I don't know the reason he retired, pretty sure it wasn't because boxers were coming up, pretty sure not ggg, and if he did he a least didn't hold up the division hostage unlike Mr. Fraude that is keeping the belts and not fighting the best of the division. Pretty sure if ryder was "mandatory" he would fight him, but no, it's benavidez and another kid that could wipe the floor with him, so let me get another mexican face first brawler, did I said Mexican? so I don't have go look for him and knock him out. I'm not buying the event because I know the result but I wish munguia's chin holds true, so he can give him a run for his money.