Is Alvarez a Mid-Level ATG OR High-Level ATG

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #61
    I'd say he is a CPG= Cherry Picking Great.

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    • daggum
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      #62
      Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
      Canelo is a tweener. He is somewhere between HOFer and low level ATG.

      He is no ATG. He aint no Chavez, Morales, or Marquez. Morales beat a prime Pacman while he was shot to sht for god sake. Morales reached Mt Rushmore with that performance. Look what he did to Maidana too. El Terrible is in another class than somebody like Canelo.

      Canelo is in the class of Oscar and Barrera.
      no way those guys are both much better. people said oscar was picking on old guys when he beat chavez and whitaker at 33...canelo beat ggg when he was 36!

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      • garfios
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        #63
        Originally posted by Silence
        Top 10 with those pals.

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        - H2H/ability.
        ​​​​​​​- Multiple divisions.
        - Achievements.
        - Inspiration.

        He got everything.
        The only thing missing, BALLS

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        • garfios
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          #64
          Originally posted by HeadShots



          he beats Ward and Toney easily.


          Imagine Ward with a ref actually enforcing the rules or boxing. It’s over for his one landed pillow style.


          Toney got outboxed in his prime by complete journeymen several times
          Imagine canelo with no biased judges. How many more losses he would have? Ah, and no balls. Crawford has the better win.

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          • garfios
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            #65
            Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
            He’d definitely a great fighter. No doubt. He’s now too OLD and fighting above his TRUE fighting weight.
            He’s essentially just doing exhibitions except getting paid far better than if he was retired. More power to him.
            Opinions are opinions. He’s ****** rich. That proves how great he is, not our opinions.
            Great? Old at 33? Take your bias a$$ out of here. You know who is great, Duran, at 38yo he was fighting the 160 pounds Champion 10 years his junior and won, and he had 91 fights under his belt at the time, he is great. Floyd is great, he schooled canelo at 36 while canelo was 13 years younger and had 44 fights under him, you know another great, SRL with half of ginger's fights he fought Hagler, Duran in his prime twice, Hearns in his prime twice, Kalule and Wolfred Benitez, all in their prime. GTFOH with that inflated resume full of old people and domestic-level fighters.

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            • StandStrong0873
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              #66
              I don’t think Canelo is an atg. ATGs take on all challenges, no ducking. And you can’t deny that he has done a lot of cherry-picking throughout his career. Also, many of his high profile wins were against boxers that were past their primes/on their way out.

              Boxing has been around for a long time so it’s difficult for me to consider him, or any other modern boxer, an atg.

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              • brown_knight06
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                #67
                He's a cheater

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                • MONGOOSE66
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by garfios

                  Great? Old at 33? Take your bias a$$ out of here. You know who is great, Duran, at 38yo he was fighting the 160 pounds Champion 10 years his junior and won, and he had 91 fights under his belt at the time, he is great. Floyd is great, he schooled canelo at 36 while canelo was 13 years younger and had 44 fights under him, you know another great, SRL with half of ginger's fights he fought Hagler, Duran in his prime twice, Hearns in his prime twice, Kalule and Wolfred Benitez, all in their prime. GTFOH with that inflated resume full of old people and domestic-level fighters.
                  You don’t know what you’re talking about otherwise I would engage with you. It would be like trying to explain chess to a fly.

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                  • MONGOOSE66
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                    Just how great is the Alvarez
                    Ahh, who cares…………

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                    • HeadShots
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by garfios

                      Imagine canelo with no biased judges. How many more losses he would have? Ah, and no balls. Crawford has the better win.



                      If he fought Ward, the judges would favor Canelo as would the ref. Ward loses that fight. Period.

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