Why do people consider Anthony Joshua a coward ?

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  • Sctrojan
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    #31
    Probably because hes a successful,well spoken,handsome mountain of a man!?!?

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    • Toffee
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      #32
      Because some people want all the fights all the time, which as boxing fans we know is completely unrealistic.

      Then they blame whoever they dislike more.

      Fury and Wilder didn't fight Joshua just as many times as Joshua didn't fight them.

      To completely dismiss a man who unified belts, fought mandatories and became a two time heavyweight champion is moronic.

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        #33
        I don't criticise josh. Josh lost, but to good fighters. But whilst there is a possibility Josh can beat fury and wilder why criticise josh? If fury and wilder don't fight Josh they will get my criticism

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          #34
          Originally posted by WillieWild114
          https://twitter.com/bronzebomber/sta...243072?lang=en
          Out of Wilder mouth himself!!! He avoided AJ !!! Why do people love ignoring this
          People ignore it because it was a different point in time, much much later than the original duck!

          Are you being serious right now?

          Look at the date of your source: 3:09 PM · Oct 31, 2020

          Look at the date of this video: Apr 13, 2018



          Originally posted by Apollo7

          Can you prove that?
          Of course! Who can't?

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          • Marchegiano
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            #35
            He continuously took easier options and fought guys just recognized enough to not be called bums. Respected fighters and respectable wins but when you have Fury and Wilder both trying to fight you and you fight guys like Parker instead you've earned some criticism.

            I don't think Joshua is a coward nor do I think his record is bad or that he's a poor former champion in any way. I do understand why people hate on him though. Wilder's been trying to fight that guy since he won the IBF. Fury's been trying to fight him since his return to boxing. Wlad's still his best win. Even if he beat Usyk, Usyk hadn't proved anything at HW but his ability to beat human punching bag Chisora and retired not so great former contender at best Witherspoon. That's not much.

            Molina, Breazeale, and Takam were trash wins. Wlad was decent, but Povetkin's always only ever been Wlad's clean up crew and Pulev's just a guy who was a top contender in one of the weakest eras of the division....when Ortiz was an interim champion...All old, past prime, and only one of them was ever truly special. Ruiz was a good win but they are 1-1. Parker's not any better than old man Pov to be honest and without the gifts, which just happened to happen the same time NZ increased their budget for attracting tourism, isn't much of a contender. Martin's often cited as the weakest champion ever. Usyk hadn't done anything.

            Did I leave anyone out?

            You can only cry mando and money so much. His career is pretty protected and looks like he goes for a good mix of respectable but not too dangerous.
            Last edited by Marchegiano; 12-20-2022, 02:57 PM. Reason: and you fight and you fight and you fight, just needless repetition that had to go.

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            • Apollo7
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              #36
              Originally posted by MoonCheese
              He continuously took easier options and fought guys just recognized enough to not be called bums. Respected fighters and respectable wins but when you have Fury and Wilder both trying to fight you and you fight guys like Parker instead you've earned some criticism.
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              Wilder wasn't any more proven than Parker when Joshua fought him and Fury was retired.

              Originally posted by MoonCheese
              I don't think Joshua is a coward nor do I think his record is bad or that he's a poor former champion in any way. I do understand why people hate on him though. Wilder's been trying to fight that guy since he won the IBF..
              Debatable. Offers have gone back and forth from both sides.

              Originally posted by MoonCheese
              Fury's been trying to fight him since his return to boxing. Wlad's still his best win..
              Again debatable. Since his return Fury has fought a few guys nobody had heard of then was locked into a trilogy with Wilder.

              Originally posted by MoonCheese
              Even if he beat Usyk, Usyk hadn't proved anything at HW but his ability to beat human punching bag Chisora and retired not so great former contender at best Witherspoon. That's not much.


              Molina, Breazeale, and Takam were trash wins. Wlad was decent, but Povetkin's always only ever been Wlad's clean up crew and Pulev's just a guy who was a top contender in one of the weakest eras of the division....when Ortiz was an interim champion...All old, past prime, and only one of them was ever truly special. Ruiz was a good win but they are 1-1. Parker's not any better than old man Pov to be honest and without the gifts, which just happened to happen the same time NZ increased their budget for attracting tourism, isn't much of a contender. Martin's often cited as the weakest champion ever. Usyk hadn't done anything.

              Did I leave anyone out?
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              All of this could apply to the whole division really. The division hasn't been that deep. Joshua's resume is one of the better ones at HW right now.

              When Ortiz was an interim Champ Joshua was inexperienced.

              Originally posted by MoonCheese


              You can only cry mando and money so much. His career is pretty protected and looks like he goes for a good mix of respectable but not too dangerous.
              I'd say the Wlad fight was dangerous. He was way more experienced, was a big puncher and almost had him out of there. The Ruiz and Usyk fights were obviously dangerous evidenced by the results.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Apollo7

                I'd guess it means what it says. Apparently before Fury vs Wilder 3, Joshua vs Fury was set to go.



                Fair enough but it's relevant if people are going to make accusations of ducking.



                Tbf it's difficult for Joshua to fight them if they're busy fighting each other.
                It was never happening. I was one of the first posters to tell people that as well.

                Analysing the negotiations is completely futile. Why? Because they’re all liars. Team Joshua are liars, Team Fury are liars and Team Wilder are liars and will spin whatever narrative to support their fighter. That’s why I just stick to the facts.

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                  #38
                  I don't think people think he's a coward. The Fury offer was just a bluff Tyson made knowing Joshua wouldn't call it. It was never happening.

                  Joshua just doesn't have a personality that people can relate to. He's kind of a weird dude.

                  I kinda see him the same way I saw Andre Ward - very talented, and not a bad guy. But I just don't really care for him.

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                  • Apollo7
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    It was never happening. I was one of the first posters to tell people that as well.

                    Analysing the negotiations is completely futile. Why? Because they’re all liars. Team Joshua are liars, Team Fury are liars and Team Wilder are liars and will spin whatever narrative to support their fighter. That’s why I just stick to the facts.
                    Totally agree that both sides will lie and spin the narrative. That's why if a fight doesn't happen I won't blame one side over the other unless there's some good evidence.

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                    • Apollo7
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by paulf
                      I don't think people think he's a coward. The Fury offer was just a bluff Tyson made knowing Joshua wouldn't call it. It was never happening.

                      Joshua just doesn't have a personality that people can relate to. He's kind of a weird dude.

                      I kinda see him the same way I saw Andre Ward - very talented, and not a bad guy. But I just don't really care for him.
                      I get what you're saying. I never liked Ward's personality (or fighting style tbf). I wouldn't say I particularly like Joshua or his personality either but I don't think either has a hateable personality either. I'd say the hate or dislike mainly comes from them being a rival of someone people do like.

                      Also Joshua is a draw so some people might well like his personality idk.

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