How does Canelo do against 160/168 Lights Out Toney?

[QueensburyRules]

That was peak Toney IMO. He looked sensational that night.

- - Barkley showed up with one eye already black and half shut.

Duran put the masterclass on a healthy Barkley and would done the same to TwoTon as would Canelo.

The "Best" Two Ton never existed save at Burger King or Chicken shacks. Ask my Bud Boozo!

[BodyBagz]

Easily outworks Tonny.
10-2 type shlt.

[GrandpaBernard]

I’m going with Jamez and don’t see this being as competitive as most think it’d be

there were instances where Alvarez couldn’t crack the shoulder roll in the pocket when he faced Floyd

He’d have the same issue with Jamez

[lopetego]

50/50 fight imo

Canelo can fight very similar to Toney when he wants to

it'd be a counter punching chess match

[TheIronMike]

Canelo had a close competative series of fights with 36+ year old GGG....he's winning 3-4 rounds max of James, whilst missing and made to look amateurish.

Canelo's punch output is **** and his gas tank is ****, if Nunn couldn't win his match, Canelo stands no chance.....NUNN.

[IronDanHamza]

That was peak Toney IMO. He looked sensational that night.

I know but what is the difference between that version of Toney in regards to shape/making weight than any other version of Toney at LHW and under?

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Toney would beat him...

In a pie eating contest.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I know but what is the difference between that version of Toney in regards to shape/making weight than any other version of Toney at LHW and under?

You talking aesthetically?

In terms of performance, Toney landed like 400+ punches in that fight. He never coasted or took rounds off, he surgically picked Barkley apart for the 9 rounds it lasted, he was evidently in good shape in that fight IMO. It was an excellent performance against a very good fighter in Barkley too. That was peak Toney was the point I was trying to make.

[IronDanHamza]

You talking aesthetically?

In terms of performance, Toney landed like 400+ punches in that fight. He never coasted or took rounds off, he surgically picked Barkley apart for the 9 rounds it lasted, he was evidently in good shape in that fight IMO. It was an excellent performance against a very good fighter in Barkley too. That was peak Toney was the point I was trying to make.

You were talking about Toney’s shape right and how the version of Toney who fought Barkley would beat Canelo.

I’m asking you because I see this argument all the time, and for the life of me still cannot understand what the difference is between that version of Toney and any other version of Toney in regards to his shape/weight making etc.

The difference is the opponent, a past prime Iran Barkley, who was a distinctly average fighter in his prime let alone that version. Who was also a perfect style match up for Toney aswell.

There’s literally not a single difference between that “version” and the “version” that fought Roy Jones. He cut a massive amount of weight for both fights.

He also weighed in under the 168 limit for both fights.

So what’s the difference? There isn’t one.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You were talking about Toney’s shape right and how the version of Toney who fought Barkley would beat Canelo.

I’m asking you because I see this argument all the time, and for the life of me still cannot understand what the difference is between that version of Toney and any other version of Toney in regards to his shape/weight making etc.

The difference is the opponent, a past prime Iran Barkley, who was a distinctly average fighter in his prime let alone that version. Who was also a perfect style match up for Toney aswell.

There’s literally not a single difference between that “version” and the “version” that fought Roy Jones. He cut a massive amount of weight for both fights.

He also weighed in under the 168 limit for both fights.

So what’s the difference? There isn’t one.

Barkley was the defending champion and had recently won the Light Heavyweight title, he was a lot better than average man. He wasn’t elite but he was a good fighter.

You honestly don’t see a difference in performance? That was definitely a better version of Toney than we saw against Thornton or Johnson, even McCallum.

Toney was a lot tighter at the weight by the time he fought Jones, he wouldn’t have beat him regardless though, that fights somewhat of an anomaly because Jones is such a stylistic nightmare for him. I don’t believe Toney’s conditioning was a big factor.