Comments Thread For: David Haye Confident His 'Prime' Version Would Have Beaten Oleksandr Usyk

[kafkod]

Haye was hurt, floored, and stopped by lesser fighters. He wouldn't have beaten Usyk. Not by outboxing, outfighting, or anything. He'd gas himself out missing haymakers after realizing his only chance is a hail mary KO.

That's the way I see it going down. Usyk's movement, stamina and punch output would be too much for Haye to handle.

[MONGOOSE66]

Former two division world champion David Haye believes that a prime version of himself would have handled a pound-for-pound boxer like Oleksandr Usyk.
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Who gives a sheeit about Haye. He’s retired and needs to go away. He wasn’t all that special when he fought. He beat old fighters and when he stepped up he got whipped. I never cared for Kahn but at LEAST he fought great fighters.

[PRINCEKOOL]

He isn't getting decked or KTFO by any of them either, or by Carl Thompson.

He has pale skin which marks up easily, but he has never been down or even wobbled, let alone stopped.

No, Usyk is in a mess after fights because? He gets hit and battered 'His defense is overrated'. Chisora & Joshua both battered Usyk, those three fights were not easy fights like people try and make out.

Usyk is not stopping those fighters in my opinion. He was only able to stop Bellew because he was completely dead at the weight.

Usyk is a great fighter. I just stylistically, don't think he is a brutal fight for David Haye 'And I have explained why in detail, Usyk does not have the attributes which Haye found most difficult to compete with'.

Usyk is not a big puncher, is not a Super Heavyweight, has not shown any signs of having a inside game, has no idea what rough house tactics are and? Physically he is not a stronger fighter than Haye, Usyk will be unable to tie Haye up on the inside and disrupt his offense.

Usyk will constantly be fighting in the danger zone, round after round. Haye will be launching assaults. And if Usyk is getting battered and messed up by a miles past his peak Chisora 'If Chisora can land punches, to the body and up top. Then Haye make no doubt about it is landing Hayemakers, there is no point in people lying to themselves'.

Haye is equal if not superior in speed, especially one punch speed at his peak. Haye hits harder, and has more impressive athleticism.

Usyk does have really good movement, compared to today's Super Heavyweights. But even when Usyk's intention is to evade and get away from his opponents? He is still not getting away from them.

A miles past his peak Chisora found him, and Joshua found him twice all night 'Lets be honest about those fights'.

Usyk is winning fights, but he is destroying nobody at Heavyweight. And in my opinion, stylistically he does not destroy or beat David Haye.

Usyk is clearly a great fighter, I rate the man. It is just specifically and stylistically I believe Haye has to the ability to win.

[BodyBagz]

Utterly meaningless.

[kafkod]

No, Usyk is in a mess after fights because? He gets hit and battered. Chisora & Joshua both battered Usyk.

Usyk is not stopping those fighters in my opinion. He was only able to stop Bellew because he was completely dead at the weight.

Usyk went 335−15 as an amateur, winning world championship and Olympic gold medals. In 20 pro fights he has won 7 world title belts - all in the opponent's backyard - and 2 Ring titles. He has never been dropped or wobbled and has never suffered any serious cuts or injuries in a fight.

He must be one lucky SOB!

[chicken-]

Usyk gets battered and busted up real good in 99.9% of his fights. His defense is overrated.

Haye at his peak or even just outside was very rarely battered bruised badly.

There are plenty of pictures out there of Usyk busted up real bad. He was a battered vs Joshua & Chisora.

Translation: Haye gets knocked out before his face gets damaged. Usyk can actually take punches, and bruises/sc****s are much easier to see on a guy with paper white skin. Haye is not Chisora and wouldn't be bullying Usyk around the ring while taking 100 punches.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Translation: Haye gets knocked out before his face gets damaged. Usyk can actually take punches, and bruises/sc****s are much easier to see on a guy with paper white skin. Haye is not Chisora and wouldn't be bullying Usyk around the ring while taking 100 punches.

Chisora was not bulling Haye around the ring, and this was a peak Chisora. Haye basically beat Chisora at his peak, at his own game.

Usyk only beat Chisora, due to Chisora fatiguing and then giving Usyk distance to box from mid-long range etc.

Usyk in that fight, back then really did not have any answer to Chisora's inside game and offense. But to his credit he came through the bombardment to impress his own mid-long range game.

Haye is a stronger heavyweight than Usyk, in physical strength and punching power.

Haye will land on Usyk, and I think he will hurt Usyk every single time.

Haye wins over the distance or via stoppage, stylistically I just don't think it is a bad match up for Haye.

Usyk is not a super heavyweight, does not have big power, and is not dominating Haye from mid-long range etc.

[alexguiness]

Carl Thompson boxed David Gaye's ears off and beat him up.

Gaye's best HW win was Valuev, or Chisora, even Audrey Harrison?

Gaye was a HW fraud, all hype and bi***uality no credible wins, period.

Even Bellow pushed his **** in twice.

[SUBZER0ED]

So, at this point do we say, big whoop or who GAF?

[Smash]

prime sore toe haye did a lot of yapping to get his big fight and then was hopeless & he was great at somehow getting people to buy ppv's when he was over the hill down the hill again but other than that he could be pretty decent at times