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  • #21
    Haye's fight predictions are honestly deluded.

    He was entertaining as a fighter, but only against mediocre opposition.

    Carl Thompson boxed his ears off and beat him up, Klitschko schooled him and even Bellew slapped him silly.
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    • #22
      He would hurt his small toe again

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      • #23
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
        David Haye at his peak is a better fighter than Usyk.

        More power, better defense, equal speed if not faster and physically stronger.

        People mock Haye for his performance vs Kiltschko.

        But? Only Fury and Haye, were the two fighters to actually consistently make Wladimir Kiltschko miss with his punches.

        Haye actually fought a more offensive fight than Fury vs Kiltschko 'And this was a peak Wladimir Kiltschko'.

        I think regardless of all the hype and trash talk, it was a good effort from Haye.

        He went in there with a genuine all time great super heavyweight, and was just edged in the rounds.

        I just think Haye would show Usyk, speed and power that he has never experienced before.

        Haye pretty much the only Heavyweight to fight Chisora head on and cancel out his momentum.

        Not even Tyson Fury in their third fight wanted to fight Chisora head on, his agreement he had with Chisora pre fight? Tyson Fury did not adhere to.

        David Haye's performance vs Derek Chisora is stylistically and physically the most impressive win over Chisora. Haye was being out weighed by close to 30 pounds, but still opted to meet Chisora head on and cancel out his momentum.

        Usyk had not answer for Chisora's inside game when they fought. It was only when Chisora began to fatigued, was he then after to create distance and box from mid-long range etc.

        At his peak, skill for skill and physically I think David Haye is a better than Usyk. He is not going to be struggling from range vs Usyk, Haye is always going to be launching threatening


        Haye was “just edged in rounds” vs Klitscho? Get the phuck outta here with that nonsense.

        Haye vs Usyk? Close call. I’ll take Usyk.
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        • #24
          Hayemaker’s prime lasted about 18 months

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          • #25
            - Arguably got draw against Briedis. Some think he lost.
            - Lost 4-5 rounds to past prime Chisora.
            - Lost 4 rounds to timid Joshua in both fights.

            Usyk is far from unhittable and master boxer. He also lacks of punch accuracy. Haye was higher level athletic freak at his prime. He would have a good chance.
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            • #26
              Originally posted by Silence View Post
              - Arguably got draw against Briedis. Some think he lost.
              - Lost 4-5 rounds to past prime Chisora.
              - Lost 4 rounds to timid Joshua in both fights.

              Usyk is far from unhittable and master boxer. He also lacks of punch accuracy. Haye was higher level athletic freak at his prime. He would have a good chance.
              Briedis fight at the very best is either a draw or Usyk 7-5 win...no way can you say Briedis won though

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Clegg View Post

                Haye won about 2 rounds vs Wlad. No way was he 'just edged'. Ibragimov almost stopped Wlad from landing big shots and also won 2 rounds.

                Haye gets no credit for fighting offensively, he ran from Wlad all night willingly giving up rounds, Fury ran while landing enough to actually win. Huge difference. Haye also ran all night vs Valuev and arguably lost, his performance was a lot less impressive than Chagaev. It was even less impressive than 80 year old Holyfield, who won more rounds vs Valuev than Haye did but got robbed.
                I thought Haye lost to Valuev as well. I only watched it once but I remember thinking Haye had blown it and being a bit surprised when they gave it to him.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Silence View Post
                  - Arguably got draw against Briedis. Some think he lost.
                  - Lost 4-5 rounds to past prime Chisora.
                  - Lost 4 rounds to timid Joshua in both fights.

                  Usyk is far from unhittable and master boxer. He also lacks of punch accuracy. Haye was higher level athletic freak at his prime. He would have a good chance.
                  Most rational take.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                    David Haye at his peak is a better fighter than Usyk.

                    More power, better defense, equal speed if not faster and physically stronger.

                    People mock Haye for his performance vs Kiltschko.

                    But? Only Fury and Haye, were the two fighters to actually consistently make Wladimir Kiltschko miss with his punches.

                    Haye actually fought a more offensive fight than Fury vs Kiltschko 'And this was a peak Wladimir Kiltschko'.

                    I think regardless of all the hype and trash talk, it was a good effort from Haye.

                    He went in there with a genuine all time great super heavyweight, and was just edged in the rounds.

                    I just think Haye would show Usyk, speed and power that he has never experienced before.

                    Haye pretty much the only Heavyweight to fight Chisora head on and cancel out his momentum.

                    Not even Tyson Fury in their third fight wanted to fight Chisora head on, his agreement he had with Chisora pre fight? Tyson Fury did not adhere to.

                    David Haye's performance vs Derek Chisora is stylistically and physically the most impressive win over Chisora. Haye was being out weighed by close to 30 pounds, but still opted to meet Chisora head on and cancel out his momentum.

                    Usyk had not answer for Chisora's inside game when they fought. It was only when Chisora began to fatigued, was he then after to create distance and box from mid-long range etc.

                    At his peak, skill for skill and physically I think David Haye is a better than Usyk. He is not going to be struggling from range vs Usyk, Haye is always going to be launching threatening attacks.





                    Great work of fiction. By the way does anyone remember when Haye faked breaking his hand when he fought Valuez?

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                    • #30
                      A prime Haye specialised in chinning eastern euro fighters.

                      50/50 fight imo.

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