Roach: "Floyd Needs Pacquiao, We Don't Need Him"

[Iceta]

This is all the more reason that Mayweather needs to fight Mosley, because Roach and Pacquiao know they can't beat Mayweather. And if Mayweather got Mosley's belt it would help his negotiating leverage against Manny. Ring has Mosley and Floyd as the top two at 147, so that fight is a no-brainer. I don't think Floyd should be ahead of Cotto, but we know Cotto isn't ever going to get the courage to fight Floyd and vice versa. Both of those guys are guilty for that fight not happening even more so than Mosley and Mayweather. Mosley at least wants the fight now.

[Young Mike]

Please Pacquiao can retired now and it would be with bigger achievements than the one Floyd had when he retired. Floyd hasn't fought better fighters than Pacquiao.

[EL ANIMAL]

i disagree. I don't think that floyd needs manny.if he fights mosley it will do big numbers and he gets the lion sum of the purse.

honestly i think they both need each other.. Boxing needs this fight.. But with all honesty i diff think that if manny beats cotto he deserves more of the purse when he fights floyd. Plain and simply cotto is a top ww and floyd hasnt fought one thus far ...therefore floyd is gonna need something under his belt to have alil more say so when it comes to money.. So he might have to fight mosley b4 that manny fight and try a get that win (not the tittle,, cause it dont mean nothing) bob arum will constantly bring that up and the fight wont get made....

[Jozelle14]

what would be more ****ty is if mayweather prices himself out, pacquiao will fight mosley and miraculously wins. it would **** on mayweather big time.

[SceneSpectator!]

This is all the more reason that Mayweather needs to fight Mosley, because Roach and Pacquiao know they can't beat Mayweather. And if Mayweather got Mosley's belt it would help his negotiating leverage against Manny. Ring has Mosley and Floyd as the top two at 147, so that fight is a no-brainer. I don't think Floyd should be ahead of Cotto, but we know Cotto isn't ever going to get the courage to fight Floyd and vice versa. Both of those guys are guilty for that fight not happening even more so than Mosley and Mayweather. Mosley at least wants the fight now.

Did you put your thick eye glass on when you read this? The reason why the much awaited fights between the two would not push through will be just because of purse sharing disagreement as the main standing block. If PBF is still dillusioned that he is the draw, then he should better look all over again his last fight with JMM to where only 12K+ was sold, and 80% of them were Mixicans! Where as Pac and Cotto fight is sold out almost two months in advance! And maybe he forgot that he is no longer the P4P king, and if he wanted to reclaim that, then he should work for this! And put this in your mind, PBF would fight none of this two Cotto and Mosley, he is ***in' afraid to both of these two, the only reason why he rose from his retirement is just because he is indeed bankrupt and the only way to salvage him from bankruptcy is to draw a promising big money from Manny's fight, and IMO, 30% is big enough for him in his present position as his share! That's why, Roach said, Manny does not need PBF, but PBF needs Manny..and the way I look at it, he needs Manny very badly!

[Iceta]

Did you put your thick eye glass on when you read this? The reason why the much awaited fights between the two would not push through will be just because of purse sharing disagreement as the main standing block. If PBF is still dillusioned that he is the draw, then he should better look all over again his last fight with JMM to where only 12K+ was sold, and 80% of them were Mixicans! Where as Pac and Cotto fight is sold out almost two months in advance! And maybe he forgot that he is no longer the P4P king, and if he wanted to reclaim that, then he should work for this! And put this in your mind, PBF would fight none of this two Cotto and Mosley, he is ***in' afraid to both of these two, the only reason why he rose from his retirement is just because he is indeed bankrupt and the only way to salvage him from bankruptcy is to draw a promising big money from Manny's fight, and IMO, 30% is big enough for him in his present position as his share! That's why, Roach said, Manny does not need PBF, but PBF needs Manny..and the way I look at it, he needs Manny very badly!

Most of what you say makes sense, but what I mean is that Pacquiao and Cotto can still do it big with an overmatched opponent where as Mosley and Mayweather can't. This combined with the fact that Mosley is available for Floyd to fight in the early part of 2010 is why that fight needs to take place first regardless of who everybody think can beat Floyd.

[SceneSpectator!]

This is all the more reason that Mayweather needs to fight Mosley, because Roach and Pacquiao know they can't beat Mayweather. And if Mayweather got Mosley's belt it would help his negotiating leverage against Manny.

And i don't get your idea here because what i saw is inconsistencies of your idea! Why should PBF needs a belt from SSM as leverage in negotiating with Manny when in the very first place you said Roach and Pac knows that they can't beat PBF???

[namme]

hahaha...Freddie Roach is a piece of ****! he's only saying that because that's a good way of getting out of the fight. He knows Mayweather will destroy is little fighter. I hope that fight takes place because I want to see freddie back up his talk. Why don't they have a winner gets 60% and the loser gets 40%.

Roach rips Floyd performance

source: Dennis Principe

They still have to deal with Miguel Cotto but Hall-of-Fame trainer Freddie Roach just couldn’t hold back in talking about Floyd Mayweather, Jr. The day he arrived in Baguio City to hook up with his prized fighter Manny Pacquiao, Roach told ********* that Mayweather missed the chance of gaining enough bargaining leverage in his latest fight against Mexican Juan Manuel Marquez.

“The fight was there for the taking but he just couldn’t finish Marquez because he doesn‘t have the balls to finish him off ,” said Roach. “The only way that he could have benefited in fighting Marquez was by knocking him out and doing something Manny couldn’t do. He’s a great boxer and I can’t take that away from him. But he’s not exciting. He doesn’t make me jump off my seat. That’s what boxing needs.”

As for Mayweather’s chances against Pacquiao, Roach admits its going to be a difficult fight but quickly adds the Filipino multi-division world champion’s skills would eventually lead them to a victory.

“Mayweather’s not the bravest guy in the world so you got to take chances. He’s a very difficult style for anyone but with enough punching power and pressure I think my fighter can get him because I’ve got the best fighter in the world,” said Roach.

Roach thinks the most difficult aspect of dealing with Mayweather is not inside the ring but on the negotiating table.

“It’s what the world wants to see. But the thing is, can you get him sign the contract? I don’t know. It’s going to be difficult because he thinks he’s going to get all the money,” said Roach. “If he thinks he’s going to get equal money with us, he’s crazy. He needs us, we don’t need him.”

Roach justified his assessment of Mayweather’s marketability by describing the American’s 12-round decision win against Marquez last weekend at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas.

“Let’s face it, the guy that puts asses on the seats is Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather doesn’t draw. Against Marquez the venue was 80% Mexican,” said Roach.

Pacquiao (49-3-2, 37 knockouts) will battle Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs) over 12-rounds for the Puerto Rican’s World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight crown on Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas. Both combatants agreed to fight at a catch weight of 145 lb.

Next week, Pacquiao shifts to higher gear as he gets to face four sparring partners led by undefeated A merican boxer Shawn Porter . All are capable of simulating the style of Cotto, according to Roach.

“Porter is my main guy right now. He’s 11-0 with 10 knockouts and is a light middleweight who’s got a strong left hook,” said Roach.

[Iceta]

And i don't get your idea here because what i saw is inconsistencies of your idea! Why should PBF needs a belt from SSM as leverage in negotiating with Manny when in the very first place you said Roach and Pac knows that they can't beat PBF???

I like Pac a lot better than Floyd, but I'm realistic at the same time. I can understand why Pac wouldn't want to fight Floyd. Pac is at his best against action fighters and not slick fighters.

[SceneSpectator!]

Most of what you say makes sense, but what I mean is that Pacquiao and Cotto can still do it big with an overmatched opponent where as Mosley and Mayweather can't. This combined with the fact that Mosley is available for Floyd to fight in the early part of 2010 is why that fight needs to take place first regardless of who everybody think can beat Floyd.

IMO, PBF would not risk fighting the best WW fighter before fighting the winner between Pac and Cotto considering he saw the sold out fights between the two, otherwise if he lose, he lose too that big pay day chance. I think he would wait for a while for the result of Pac-Cotto before considering Mosley. However if Cotto wins, I think that's the only time PBF would consider Mosley first as an option.