Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Views Joe Joyce as Tougher Opponent Than Oleksandr Usyk

[-Kev-]

Crawford will fight Spence before Fury ever fights Usyk.

Fury has been calling out Usyk. Usyk needed to rest from his injuries and tough fights vs AJ. That came from his own mouth.

Usyk is an easy fight for Fury due to size. I do think Usyk has more skills. But that size difference I think would be way too much.

[LAchargers373]

Tyson is petrified by Usyk, he'll NEVER face the Ukrainian.

smh anyone seen usyks career should know that’s beyond a joke. Dude barely beat maris Bredis. He’s the exact same fighter. Fury will stop him to the body. Go watch usyk glowacki usyk chisora usyk is TERRIBLE under pressure this isn’t the amateurs Joyce and Tyson will get him over 12

[SimpleTouchee]

Can we just these type of fights idc who wins I want to see an undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, If not Fury to give Joyce a titleshot if he is truly a top 3 heavyweight in the world since all these fighters inactive anyways.

[fistic flow]

Everyone knows that the Chisora who fought Usyk, was in better condition. Still? I think the Chisora fight is irrelevant.

Stylistically it has always been a easier fight for Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury runs out of steam all the time, looks to me like he ran out of steam vs Wilder 3. It was just that he was inside the ring, with a fighter in Wilder who could not capitalize on this.

I have watched Chris Euabnk Junior switch stances, moving latterly, blocking and swaying punches at domestic level 'Big deal'.

Lets be honest mate, come on now? Just be honest with yourself. Tyson Fury all those skills you are talking about, he is only displaying them against fighters who are not operating at world level 'Fury's last two fights have not been world level fights, and Deontay Wilder skill for skill is not a elite level fighter' As dangerous and serious of a fighter Wilder is, he does not have all round elite level boxing skills 'No disrespect to Wilder, because I rate him'.

As I stated in my first posts, Fury has not actually fought at elite level skill for skill since the Kiltschko fight

Wilder was not hanging on to survive vs Fury 1. The only fighter who was hurt badly in that fight was Fury. You need to be objective, and stop making things up.

Tyson Fury got up and survive a knock out blow, to then to his credit launch a offensive attack. Wilder was not decked, or hurt badly.

Note: Tyson Fury is the favorite vs Usyk. But what I am stating is? Skill for skill, Fury has not really been fighting anyone, anywhere near Usyk's technical level. So all these skills you are talking about, might not be as effective vs Usyk like you are anticipating.

People **** on about Fury's speed, but again being critical and objective. Is Tyson Fury really that fast? Fury is not a slow fighter, but I would never describe him as a speedster 'Not at any point in his career'.

Why would the Chisora fight be irrelevant, if a lesser skilled man managed to bust Usyk's face up and run him close?

Fury hardly ran and trained because of the situation with his daughter, but still outlasted Wilder.

So then you agree he has these skills in his locker even if he hasn't shown it in recent fights, because Klitschko hardly laid a glove on him.

Fury catches him with a right hook, then a left hook, Wilder is buzzed and clinches and then basically backpedals before an attempted flury at the bell. There's plenty of video for you to watch.

Speed goes in Usyk's favour, but there isn't a notable difference, like Chisora, and reach and timing more than compensate for Fury.

Just hope for a round robin between the three so that all arguments can be put to bed.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Why would the Chisora fight be irrelevant, if a lesser skilled man managed to bust Usyk's face up and run him close?

Fury hardly ran and trained because of the situation with his daughter, but still outlasted Wilder.

So then you agree he has these skills in his locker even if he hasn't shown it in recent fights, because Klitschko hardly laid a glove on him.

Fury catches him with a right hook, then a left hook, Wilder is buzzed and clinches and then basically backpedals before an attempted flury at the bell. There's plenty of video for you to watch.

Speed goes in Usyk's favour, but there isn't a notable difference, like Chisora, and reach and timing more than compensate for Fury.

Just hope for a round robin between the three so that all arguments can be put to bed.

I have stated many times, that Uysk only beat Chisora because? Chisora fatigued.

Usyk had no real answer for that version of Chisora's inside game.

It was only when Chisora fatigued, Usyk was then able to create distance and box from Mid-Long range.

Check again my post, I have highlighted that it is Fury's inside game which I think? Will be the attribute Usyk is most bothered about 'Skill for skill, I don't think Fury can out box Usyk, in the manner people are playing up'.

Usyk has increased his level in all of his fights at Heavyweight. Each time he has fought, he has been fighting a better fighter.

Joshua skill for skill was probably the best he has ever been in the second fight 'Definitely from mid-long range' Uysk is increasing his game, with each Heavyweight fight 'And there is evidence for this'.

The same cannot be said about Fury, he was nearly taken out by Wilder in the third fight 'And he just fought two fighters, who are not world level fighters'.

It is specifically Fury's inside game, which I think will the winning attribute 'If he is able to apply it vs Usyk'.

But that is the debate? Can Fury apply that inside game vs Uysk? Because make no doubt about it, team Usyk are going to be aware of this.

I make Fury still the favorite for the fight.

[factsarenice]

Fury stepping up to another guy that lost to Usyk....

[LAchargers373]

I have stated many times, that Uysk only beat Chisora because? Chisora fatigued.

Usyk had no real answer for that version of Chisora's inside game.

It was only when Chisora fatigued, Usyk was then able to create distance and box from Mid-Long range.

Check again my post, I have highlighted that it is Fury's inside game which I think? Will be the attribute Usyk is most bothered about 'Skill for skill, I don't think Fury can out box Usyk, in the manner people are playing up'.

Usyk has increased his level in all of his fights at Heavyweight. Each time he has fought, he has been fighting a better fighter.

Joshua skill for skill was probably the best he has ever been in the second fight 'Definitely from mid-long range' Uysk is increasing his game, with each Heavyweight fight 'And there is evidence for this'.

The same cannot be said about Fury, he was nearly taken out by Wilder in the third fight 'And he just fought two fighters, who are not world level fighters'.

It is specifically Fury's inside game, which I think will the winning attribute 'If he is able to apply it vs Usyk'.

But that is the debate? Can Fury apply that inside game vs Uysk? Because make no doubt about it, team Usyk are going to be aware of this.

I make Fury still the favorite for the fight.

Nearly taken out by wilder? Lol. Ur out to lunch mate. Fury’s last 2 fights btw are the same level as usyks last 2 fights. Chisora/AJ chisora/whyte and fury stopped chisora while usyk went to debateable decision with him. If u want to expand let’s explore their last 5 fights. Usyk has 2 debateable decisions one vs a cruiser weight (bredis) who lust lost to jai opetia who fought with a broken hand. And one one to chisora who Tyson fury absolutely destroyed. And 2 decisions to an already beaten by Andy ruiz AJ. Compare that to wilder 2x wallin whyte and chisora. There’s levels to this and usyk is a step below. Probably the most overated fighter in boxing today. Him or dud duckford.

[Oregonian]

Crawford will fight Spence before Fury ever fights Usyk.

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We heard the same thing about Wilder. And then it happened. Twice.

So, are you going to be here when Fury does fight Usyk?

[fistic flow]

I have stated many times, that Uysk only beat Chisora because? Chisora fatigued.

Usyk had no real answer for that version of Chisora's inside game.

It was only when Chisora fatigued, Usyk was then able to create distance and box from Mid-Long range.

Check again my post, I have highlighted that it is Fury's inside game which I think? Will be the attribute Usyk is most bothered about 'Skill for skill, I don't think Fury can out box Usyk, in the manner people are playing up'.

Usyk has increased his level in all of his fights at Heavyweight. Each time he has fought, he has been fighting a better fighter.

Joshua skill for skill was probably the best he has ever been in the second fight 'Definitely from mid-long range' Uysk is increasing his game, with each Heavyweight fight 'And there is evidence for this'.

The same cannot be said about Fury, he was nearly taken out by Wilder in the third fight 'And he just fought two fighters, who are not world level fighters'.

It is specifically Fury's inside game, which I think will the winning attribute 'If he is able to apply it vs Usyk'.

But that is the debate? Can Fury apply that inside game vs Uysk? Because make no doubt about it, team Usyk are going to be aware of this.

I make Fury still the favorite for the fight.

But not outboxed, which you've just been arguing. Whyte was mandatory for how long? And by that metric, you discount Chisora, so the only better fighter that Usyk has upped his game with is Joshua, who could hardly prepare Usyk for the kind of challenges Fury presents.

And going back to your previous point about Eubank Jr, giving different looks is hardly the same as having the ability to win a fight boxing purely as a leftie.

None of Usyk's past foes are Fury, or anything like him, in length, weight or style. So how exactly do they help? Long or short game, Fury takes it.

[Oregonian]

I have stated many times, that Uysk only beat Chisora because? Chisora fatigued.

Usyk had no real answer for that version of Chisora's inside game.

It was only when Chisora fatigued, Usyk was then able to create distance and box from Mid-Long range.

Check again my post, I have highlighted that it is Fury's inside game which I think? Will be the attribute Usyk is most bothered about 'Skill for skill, I don't think Fury can out box Usyk, in the manner people are playing up'.

Usyk has increased his level in all of his fights at Heavyweight. Each time he has fought, he has been fighting a better fighter.

Joshua skill for skill was probably the best he has ever been in the second fight 'Definitely from mid-long range' Uysk is increasing his game, with each Heavyweight fight 'And there is evidence for this'.

The same cannot be said about Fury, he was nearly taken out by Wilder in the third fight 'And he just fought two fighters, who are not world level fighters'.

It is specifically Fury's inside game, which I think will the winning attribute 'If he is able to apply it vs Usyk'.

But that is the debate? Can Fury apply that inside game vs Uysk? Because make no doubt about it, team Usyk are going to be aware of this.

I make Fury still the favorite for the fight.

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I’ve agreed with you many times but …. The comment about Chisora being fatigued.
That excuse is no different from “Lucky punch” or “calf injury” or “not going toe to toe”.
This is pro boxing. These guys are paid millions to fight. They have a team of nutritionists, strength and conditioning coaches, sparring partners and weeks of training.

Getting fatigued should be the last thing happening to them. So Chisora got beat. Period.
Stop making excuses.

Also, “Fury was nearly taken out by Wilder”! BUT HE DID’NT. Period.

I heard the same mantra when Sergio Martinez fought Julio Chavez Jr. Chavez He’s fans kept saying Sergio “got saved by the bell” or “if the fight went to 13 rounds” etc. None of that matters.

Same thing with the two punches Mosley landed on Floyd. They somehow forget the other 11 rounds and get fixated on a single incident of a 12 round fight.