Never A Fan Of Floyd, But…

[CubanGuyNYC]

Mayweather was always one of the more disciplined boxers in terms of both his training and his fighting. He was known for his meticulous preparation and his ability to stick to a game plan in the ring. This discipline served him well throughout his career, as he racked up an impressive 50-0 record (or 49-0 if you believe the argument that the crossover fight should not be counted in the official records). Hopkins and GGG are even more disciplined than Mayweather, and they have both enjoyed tremendous success in the boxing world. Duran and Fury are less disciplined than the other three, but they are both even more talented. This talent has allowed them to overcome their lack of discipline and achieve great things in the sport of boxing. Other sports see this as well. The focus and preparation of recent athletes like Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, and the late Kobe Bryant is beyond inspiring. Yet others have little life skills in discipline but get by on their tremendous natural born talents. The late Diego Maradona was such an athlete.

I believe that the level of effort even athletes like Duran and Maradona exerted in their chosen sports is underestimated. I agree that they probably weren’t single-minded workaholics like some of their fellow greats, but talent alone, no matter how great, just doesn’t cut it at the very top.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Well another way of looking at is that history is full of great fighters, hof fighters etc and they pretty much all had sons, there was only one Floyd Mayweather.

Im fascinated by these types of things because I've bred and raised performance animals my whole life and know first-hand how even when everything is perfect, you still get a duffer, and when all odds are against them, greatness rises up in spite of everything, I look at great individuals whether man or beast as being Gods prototypes, they are special beings.

It’s fascinating how some people — or animals — given the best of circumstances, and reasonable effort, don’t rise to much more than above-average. Duran used to say something similar, that he believed some people were singled out by God to be an example.

[billeau2]

One thing to be aware of regarding Floyd and his marketing: For the longest time Floyd was a victim of what many fighters deal with today. Under Arum he could not draw flies. To his credit he took a chance and left Bob, but he also caught a real break. De La Hoya who really was a magnet was Floyd's first real money fight. once Floyd did that fight he became a much more marketable fighter, primarily as a "heal."

De La Hoya's charisma? Well... when i used to hang out with the boys in New York and get the fights, my wife and other wives would somehow be interested when Oscar was fighting! lol. We could never figure it out, we thought maybe it was his jab?

[CubanGuyNYC]

What you did was something that used to be expected of intelligent, well educated people... what were called "********" at the time, and baring little, to no relation to how the term is used today... You went into looking at something with an open mind and allowed it to move you. You are to be commended!

I first realized Floyd's greatness watching him in slo mo avoid a shot and set the counter up. It showed how in the milliseconds of a reaction Floyd stayed the technical points to success... I was impressed. I think at 130 he was on a relatively short list.

Thank you, sir. And I agree 100% that it is a ******* mindset in the classic sense, as I am a political conservative.

Something that became clear to me watching all this Mayweather footage is that Floyd used specific boxing techniques over and over again to perfection. Many fighters follow a much more freestyle approach. Mayweather would execute a specific technique for whatever was thrown at him — the pull-counter versus the jab, for instance, followed by a duck below a counterpunch. And, having such a wide arsenal, Floyd could employ multiple techniques as the situation demanded. All that time he spent in training, hammering home the techniques countless times, made it almost automatic. Very impressive, to say the least.

[Roadblock]

One thing to be aware of regarding Floyd and his marketing: For the longest time Floyd was a victim of what many fighters deal with today. Under Arum he could not draw flies. To his credit he took a chance and left Bob, but he also caught a real break. De La Hoya who really was a magnet was Floyd's first real money fight. once Floyd did that fight he became a much more marketable fighter, primarily as a "heal."

De La Hoya's charisma? Well... when i used to hang out with the boys in New York and get the fights, my wife and other wives would somehow be interested when Oscar was fighting! lol. We could never figure it out, we thought maybe it was his jab?

Thats what we call fate where organized chaos is at work, generally all greatness is handed down in one way or another it doesn't just come from nothing and so many variables must align at the right time for it to reach its full potential, Ive seen many great dogs that were ruined by the numbskull at the other end of the lead, and the main fault was the guy didn't know what he had when he had it, greatness doesn't always hit you on the head with a hammer, it can be in disguise and never let out of its cage because of short-sighted people that didn't know what they were looking at.

[QueensburyRules]

I first realized Floyd's greatness watching him in slo mo avoid a shot and set the counter up. It showed how in the milliseconds of a reaction Floyd stayed the technical points to success... I was impressed. I think at 130 he was on a relatively short list.

- - Until Castillo busted his guts open to have him squallin' fer his crack daddy.

[Roadblock]

- - Until Castillo busted his guts open to have him squallin' fer his crack daddy.

I guess some people will never grow up, your mouth would make a good spittoon at a bar..

[CubanGuyNYC]

One thing to be aware of regarding Floyd and his marketing: For the longest time Floyd was a victim of what many fighters deal with today. Under Arum he could not draw flies. To his credit he took a chance and left Bob, but he also caught a real break. De La Hoya who really was a magnet was Floyd's first real money fight. once Floyd did that fight he became a much more marketable fighter, primarily as a "heal."

De La Hoya's charisma? Well... when i used to hang out with the boys in New York and get the fights, my wife and other wives would somehow be interested when Oscar was fighting! lol. We could never figure it out, we thought maybe it was his jab?

Lol Oscar will always remind me of my ex from long ago. She loved the guy. Haha

Good observations all around. And I will add that although DLH was a great fighter, also started very young and had dedication, he’s not on the same level as Floyd. I would be willing to bet it came down to an even higher commitment to his craft on the part of Mayweather. It’s just insane.

[billeau2]

Thats what we call fate where organized chaos is at work, generally all greatness is handed down in one way or another it doesn't just come from nothing and so many variables must align at the right time for it to reach its full potential, Ive seen many great dogs that were ruined by the numbskull at the other end of the lead, and the main fault was the guy didn't know what he had when he had it, greatness doesn't always hit you on the head with a hammer, it can be in disguise and never let out of its cage because of short-sighted people that didn't know what they were looking at.

Yup... It is using the opportunities we are given to the max.

[billeau2]

Lol Oscar will always remind me of my ex from long ago. She loved the guy. Haha

Good observations all around. And I will add that although DLH was a great fighter, also started very young and had dedication, he’s not on the same level as Floyd. I would be willing to bet it came down to an even higher commitment to his craft on the part of Mayweather. It’s just insane.

Oscar fought many rounds in a careless fashion. Some people think he gave the Trinidad fight away because he could not fight the full rounds in the fight.